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To: Greg or e who wrote (58343)9/22/2014 2:35:04 AM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
You just cannot even respond to a post without more deflection, ok lets look at ---> Immaculate conception<-----.. forbidden fruit & original (inherited) sin, this is pure nonsense, tell that to someone who just has given birth to a pure innocent little newborn child. And another news flash for you; life, birth & death are not caused by someone eating or not eating an apple in an imaginary garden lured by a talking snake.

This was an evolution thread, not a religious ----> Fables R Us <-----... thread.

But if you really want to get into this immaculate conception & fallen/corrupt world idea, that would be found originally in Plato's aesthetics symposium long before the Christians or Hebrews could come up with such deep thoughts, so once again long before, you are right back to where these ideas originated & were being generated ------------> by the Greeks/Hellenes.

Like the Virgin Birth .



To: Greg or e who wrote (58343)9/22/2014 2:38:19 AM
From: 2MAR$  Respond to of 69300
 
Plato & the Fallen Corrupt world...again here is your source origins, theologians only copied these ideas some 800yrs later & piled it higher & deeper. (PHD)

Plato saw the changing physical world as a poor, decaying copy of a perfect, rational, eternal, and changeless original. The beauty of a flower, or a sunset, a piece of music or a love affair, is an imperfect copy of Beauty Itself. In this world of changing appearances, while you might catch a glimpse of that ravishing perfection, it will always fade. It’s just a pointer to the perfect beauty of the eternal. The same goes for other Essences, like Justice. Anyone knows that Real Justice is too much to hope for in this corrupt world.

The best you can find is a rough approximation. To take a third example, the most carefully drawn circle turns out to be irregular if you inspect it closely enough. Like The Point, The Line, and all geometric shapes, The Circle is a mathematical ideal. It is not possible to draw a Real Circle, but only an imperfect physical copy (or instance) of one. (If you have ever striven to acheive an ideal, you may have have some sympathy with this part of Plato's philosophy.)


( that garden of Eden & the snake fable was for frightening effect & popular consumption)