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To: Brumar89 who wrote (59140)	10/2/2014 8:16:00 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Extra-biblical Egyptian references giving credence to the Exodus story: 1. Slaves building monuments in Egypt - Papyrus, Leiden #348, "Distribute grain to the Habirus (or Apiru - Hebrews) who carry stones to the great pylon of Rameses," Mural paintings indicate starving men with prominent spavined ribs.) 2. An Austrian dig of dwellings and tombs at Tel-ed-Daba, Egypt, in 1989, discovered ancient cities near Goshen. Data from 800 drill cores gave evidence of a large number of Asian, non-Egyptian slaves; eleven levels at the site indicate many generations during the 12th and 13th Egyptian dynasties {compatible in duration and time period to the Biblical history of the Hebrew sojourn as slaves in Egypt}: 3. The Brooklyn Papyrus 35.1446, tells of the reign of Pharaoh Sobekhotep, containing over 95 names of slaves, more than half are Semitic, seven being Biblical names {including the name of one of the two midwives named in the Bible, "Shiphrah"},{Also Asher, Issachar, and Menachem} 4. In direct conformity with the Bible {the killing of male Hebrew babies - infant Moses is saved by Egyptian princess} was the discovery of unusual demographic burial data at Tel-ed-Daba - 65% of the graves were of babies less than 18 months old, compared to a normal percentage of 20-30%. In addition there were far more graves of adult females than of males (conforming to male infants being killed at birth.); 5. Historians of the 300 BC era, Eusebies and Artapanus, with ancient records from the library at Alexandria, tell of Mouses {Moses}, an Egyptian prince who led a military campaign against Ethiopia. The Roman historian, Josephus and a stela fragment in the British Museum, indicate such an event occurred during the reign of Pharaoh Khenepres-Sobekhotep. Also supporting the story of the military campaign by Moses was a statue of Sobekhotep {Moses' stepfather} found on the island of Argo, proving that Egyptian conquest and authority extended to 200 kilometers from Egypt. Egyptian historians wrote that Mouses' fame caused Sobekhotep to target him {causing him to flee from Egypt to Midian - as in the Bible story, however, the Bible and the Jewish Haggadah say the cause was Moses killing an Egyptian slave-driver who was beating a Hebrew}; 6. The Pharaoh of the Exodus is identified as King Dudimose, 36th ruler of the 13th Dynasty. {The Bible describes him as, "Pharaoh who knew not Joseph"}. 7. M. Bietek, in his dig at Tel ed-Baba, which he dated to the middle of the 14th Dynasty, found shallow mass graves all over the city of Avaris - clear evidence of some type of sudden major and widespread catastrophe {not unlike what would result from a biblical "Tenth Plague", death of all first-born}. In addition, site-archaeology suggests that the remaining population had abandoned their homes quickly and en masse; 8. Information from the extra-biblical source of Josephus, a Roman historian born a Jew - who aided Titus in his conquest of Jerusalem in 67 AD, and was then, as a reward, given the Temple Scrolls - quotes Monetho, an Egyptian priest, circa 300 BC, regarding the "easy" conquest of mighty Egypt by the Hyksos. {Bible - Egypt's loss of its entire army of 600 chariots and charioteers at the Red Sea seems a reasonable explanation}. 9. A highly important extra-biblical source of corroborative detail to many of the narratives of the ten-plagues and the Exodus events of both Bible and Hebrew-Passover-Haggadah, is the Ipuwer Papyrus Scroll - Leiden 344. Found in Egypt in the early 19th century, it was taken to the Leiden Museum in Holland where it remains. Described in many books about ancient Egypt, it is a papyrus scroll over twelve feet in length, called "Admonitions of Ipuwer". It was written during the 19th dynasty (the Middle Kingdom period) by a scribe/historian named Ipuwer, and interpreted in 1909 by A. H. Gardiner. The scroll describes violent events in Egypt which seem to parallel the Biblical ten plagues and the Exodus story - it seems a description of a society in total crisis, providing, in essence, an eyewitness account of extreme and unusual occurrences.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (59140)	10/2/2014 9:22:26 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Another humorous deflection from Bilbo Brumar's "Fantasies R Us" to start the day? The post you were responding to had not a thing to do with this fictional character's reason to flee Egypt, only the kindness & compassion the story shows from the beginning of a wise, tolerant and superior civilized peoples. You have trouble reading english again i see. What real evidence we do have of Jews in Egypt, not your fairytales, is found in the very real Elephantine Papyri that date mostly to mid 5th century settlement there, which completely supports my thesis. I'm sure you're aware of those records of the Jews living in Egypt 500BC & the multicultural influences that found some ceramic figurines of Astarte, the queen of the heavens, worshipped by Jews and non-Jews who were getting along quite well & harmoniously. So again reality supports my view, while you could say Moses lived on the moon but doesn't change what is literally a far more interesting subject, the true story of human civilization & human interaction, not the forgeries, myths & the fake.