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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)	10/15/2014 2:09:53 PM
From: jlallen	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224724

Kenny parrot...where have you been....?? That nonsense was debunked yesterday.... Try to keep up with the conversation so you don't embarrass yourself more than necessary....

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)	10/15/2014 2:11:25 PM
From: TideGlider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224724

Hey fool....you are too old for Ebola to frighten you and besides, the government stopped it dead in it's tracks.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)	10/15/2014 2:14:39 PM
From: TideGlider	1 Recommendation Recommended By locogringo Respond to of 224724

Just remember Ken, you don't have to shoot them in the head. Blood splatter is far too dangerous so take any shots at a distance but don't waste your ammo. Fire will work well on Walking Dead. Make certain you always wear goggles prior to a confrontation and wash with bleach immediately after.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)

10/15/2014 2:18:10 PM

From: tonto

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$4 Billion has been spent to date...poorly?

The Hospital Preparedness Program (HPP) provides leadership and funding through grants and cooperative agreements to States, territories, and eligible municipalities to improve surge capacity and enhance community and hospital preparedness for public health emergencies. To date, states, territories, and large metropolitan areas have received HPP grants totaling over $4 billion to help Healthcare Coalitions, hospitals and other healthcare organizations strengthen medical surge and other Healthcare Preparedness Capabilities across the nation.

The program is managed the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR), Office of Emergency Management (OEM), which provides programmatic oversight and works with its partners in State, territorial, and municipal government to ensure that the program’s goals are met or exceeded.

This funding is used to support programs to help strengthen public health emergency preparedness in several ways:

		Enhanced Planning: HPP funding is used to enhance Healthcare Coalitions, hospitals and other healthcare organization’s collective system planning and response at the State, local, and territorial levels.
		Increasing Integration: HPP facilitates the integration of public and private sector medical planning and assets to increase the preparedness, response, and surge capacity of Healthcare Coalitions, hospitals, and other healthcare organizations.
		Improving Infrastructure: Awardees have used HPP Grants and Special Initiative Grant funding to improve the State, local, and territorial infrastructures that help Healthcare Coalitions, hospitals and other healthcare organizations prepare for public health emergencies. Additionally, the Hospital Preparedness Program, a state-federal cooperative administered by the Department of Health and Human Services has been slashed. In 2003, its budget was $520 million. In 2014 and 2015, it's $255 million.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)	10/15/2014 2:30:23 PM
From: MJ	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224724

That, this, is a Daily Kos article. Incidentally, what does KOS mean? Sounds rather sinister.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)	10/15/2014 2:32:21 PM
From: tonto	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Respond to of 224724

Ebola: Five ways the CDC got it wrong By Elizabeth Cohen, Senior Medical Correspondent updated 12:55 PM EDT, Tue October 14, 2014 Source: CNN [iframe style="WIDTH: 1px; DISPLAY: none; HEIGHT: 1px" id=ob_iframe src="http://widgets.outbrain.com/nanoWidget/3rd/comScore/comScore.htm"][/iframe] STORY HIGHLIGHTS Public health experts question some CDC actions on Ebola Patients are told to "call a doctor," but expert says an ambulance would be better Not just any hospital can care for Ebola patients, experts say [iframe style="POSITION: relative; TOP: 0px; LEFT: 0px" id=8db414730d2c2780 class=" adunit_150x90" height=90 marginHeight=0 src="http://ads.cnn.com/html.ng/site=cnn&cnn_position=150x90_spon1&cnn_rollup=us&page.allowcompete=no&params.styles=fs&Params.User.UserID=543ebd04057e200a3c6b8038b8032182&transactionID=14133983565876792334853398&tile=1246538933141&domId=8db414730d2c2780&kxid=&kxseg=" frameBorder=0 width=150 allowTransparency name=8db414730d2c2780 marginWidth=0 scrolling=no][/iframe] (CNN) -- A nurse contracts Ebola. An urgent care center in Boston shuts down when a sick man recently returned from Liberia walks in. Health care workers complain they haven't been properly trained to protect themselves against the deadly virus. Public health experts are asking whether the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is partly to blame. Here are five things they say the CDC is getting wrong. 1. The CDC is telling possible Ebola patients to "call a doctor." How much do you know about Ebola? States scramble to dispose of Ebola waste Are doctors and nurses safe from Ebola? Did NBC reporter violate quarantine? When passengers arrive in the United States from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea, they're handed a flier instructing them to "call a doctor" if they feel ill. Never mind how hard it is to get your doctor on the phone, but even if you could, it's quite possible she'd tell you to go to the nearest emergency room or urgent care center. We saw how well that worked at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. On September 25, the hospital sent a feverish Thomas Eric Duncan home even though he had told them he'd recently been to Liberia. And we've seen how well that worked in Massachusetts, where an ill man recently returned from Liberia walked into an urgent care center, which then evacuated its other patients and closed for several hours. One way to do it differently: Set up a toll free number for returning passengers that would reach a centralized office, which would then dispatch a local ambulance to get the patient to a hospital. The hospital would be warned that a possible Ebola patient is on the way, and the patient would not be brought through the main emergency room. That's the idea of Gavin Macgregor-Skinner, an assistant professor at Penn State's Department of Public Health Sciences. "Do you really want someone with Ebola hopping on a bus to get to the hospital? No," he said. "And once they get there, do you want them sitting in the waiting room next to the kid with the broken arm? Again, no." CDC Director Tom Frieden faces rising tide of criticism 2. The CDC director says any hospital can care for Ebola patients. "Essentially any hospital in the country can safely take care of Ebola. You don't need a special hospital to do it," Dr. Thomas Frieden said Sunday at a press conference. "I think it's very unfortunate that he keeps re-stating that," said Macgregor-Skinner, the global projects manager for the Elizabeth R. Griffin Foundation. He said when it comes to handling Ebola, not all hospitals are created equally. As seen at Presbyterian, using protective gear can be tricky. Plus, it's a challenge to handle infectious waste from Ebola patients, such as hospital gowns contaminated with blood or vomit. Dr. Michael Osterholm, an infectious disease epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota, said some hospitals have more experience with infectious diseases and consistently do drills in how to deal with biohazards. "If you were a burn unit patient, wouldn't you want to go to a burn unit?" he said. The CDC may already be moving in that direction. Designating certain hospitals as Ebola treatment units "is something we're exploring further," said Tom Skinner, a spokesman for the agency. CDC 'doubling down' on Ebola training efforts 3. The CDC didn't encourage the "buddy system" for doctors and nurses. Gupta suits up in Ebola protective gear Zuckerberg donating $25m to Ebola fight Under this system, a doctor or nurse who is about to do a procedure on an Ebola patient has a "buddy," another health care worker, who acts as a safety supervisor, monitoring the worker from the time he puts on the gear until the time he takes it off. The "buddy system" has been effective in stopping other kinds of infections in hospitals. Skinner said the CDC is considering recommending such a system to hospitals. 4. CDC didn't encourage doctors to develop Ebola treatment guidelines. Taking care of Ebola patients is tricky, because certain procedures might put doctors and nurses in contact with the patient's infectious bodily fluids. At Sunday's press conference, Frieden hinted that Presbyterian might have performed two measures -- inserting a breathing tube and giving kidney dialysis -- that were unlikely to help Duncan. He described them as a "desperate measure" to save his life. "Both of those procedures may spread contaminated materials and are considered high-risk procedures," he said. "I'm not familiar with any prior patient with Ebola who has undergone either intubation or dialysis." Osterholm said CDC should coordinate with medical groups to come up with treatment guidelines. "We could have and should have done it a few months ago," he said. 5. The CDC put too much trust in protective gear. Once Duncan was diagnosed, health authorities started making daily visits to 48 of his contacts. But that didn't include several dozen workers at Presbyterian who took care of Duncan after he was diagnosed. They weren't followed because they were wearing protective gear when they had contact with Duncan. Instead, they monitored themselves. Public health experts said that was a misstep, as the CDC should have realized that putting on and taking off protective gear is often done imperfectly and one of the workers might get an infection. How did Dallas nurse contract Ebola? "We have to recognize that our safety work tells us that breaches of protocol are the norm, not the exception in health care," said Dr. Peter Pronovost, senior vice president for patient safety and quality at Johns Hopkins Medicine. "We routinely break precautions." Skinner said that in this case, self-monitoring worked, but that monitoring from health officials can be beneficial, too, and so health care workers who were involved in Duncan's care will now get daily visits from health authorities.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)	10/15/2014 2:56:05 PM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Recommended By locogringo TideGlider Respond to of 224724

Comrade Philips....I bet everyone her hopes that the ebola virus does not make it to your neighborhood cuz it might just get you to doubt just a bit about the honesty of Hussein Obama and his minions. You posted this....."I have 3 kids and 5 grandchildren."... Message 29753686 ..."I am too old to worry about ebola.'..... Message 29753530 You IMO are a selfish mean old fool, You brave soul do not worry about ebola? what about your children and Grandchildren??????? do you worry about them? I don't even know your kids or Grandchildren but I have concern for them and all innocent people that may become infected because of the stupidity of Hussein Obama. You are beyond any doubt in my mind one of the most disgusting nasty people I have ever come across....you are not capable of shame or I would ask why you knowingly lie and feel no guilt....just like Hussein....disgusting. :-(

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (173649)	10/15/2014 3:26:52 PM
From: locogringo	4 Recommendations Recommended By FJB Honey_Bee lorne TideGlider Respond to of 224724

You pathetic LYING POS. Quit LYING and spreading bullshit (Compliments FUBHO) Liars! The WaPost gives Dems ‘4 Pinocchios’ for saying the GOP cut Ebola funding twitchy.com washingtonpost.com