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To: Brumar89 who wrote (60857)10/19/2014 1:45:24 PM
From: Solon  Respond to of 69300
 
TEACH THIS IN SCIENCE CLASS--NOT SCIENCE!! As TROLL boy says: Teach everything and let the kids decide for themselves! Science teachers who refuse to teach Genesis are "fascists"...

"they are two separate ideas and there is no harm in examining each of them and in letting people decide what they wish to believe....UNLESS you are a fascist..."
~~TROLL boy

The Great Flood! Where God murders everyone except for an exhibitionist drunkard and his motley family!

Genesis 7 (7:1) "Thee have I seen righteous."
God calls Noah "righteous." But this contradicts several other verses that say there never has been such a person. And he just doesn't seem too darned righteous in 9:20-21. (Where he gets drunk and lies around naked in front of God and everybody.)
Has there ever been a righteous person? (7:2-3)
"Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens."
How did Noah know which animals were "clean" and "unclean" to God? (It wasn't defined until Leviticus was written.)
How many of each kind did Noah take into the ark? (7:4) "Every living substance that I have made will I destroy."
God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. (7:7-10, 11-13) "In the selfsame day entered Noah."
When did Noah enter the ark? (7:8-9) Whether by twos or by sevens, Noah takes representatives from each species of "every thing that creepeth upon the earth." Now this must have taken some time, along with expert knowledge of taxonomy, genetics, biogeography, and anatomy. How did Noah manage to collect the endemic species from the New World, Australia, Polynesia, and other remote regions entirely unknown to him? How, once he found them, did he transport them back to the ark? How could he tell the male and female beetles (there are more than 500,000 species) apart? How did he know how to care for these new and unfamiliar animals? How did he find the space on the ark? How did he manage to find and care for the hundreds of thousands of parasitic species? How did he obtain and care for the hundreds of thousands of species of plants? (Plants are ignored in the Genesis account, but the animals wouldn't last long after if the plants died in the flood.) No, wait, don't tell me. A miracle happened. Millions of them. How many of each kind did Noah take into the ark? (7:8) "Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, (7:9) "There went in two and two." (7:11) "The windows of heaven were opened."
God opens the "windows of heaven. "He does this every time it rains.
"In the six hundreth year of Noah's life ... the windows of heaven were opened."
(See Quran 29:14 which says he was 950 when the flood began.)
(7:13) "Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah"
Who was Noah's youngest son?
(7:13-14) "In the selfsame day"
All of the animals boarded the ark "in the selfsame day."
With a million or so species (There are more than a million known today.), the animals must have boarded at a rate of at least 10 pairs/second.
(7:15) "And they went ... into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein there is breath of life."
How many of each kind did Noah take into the ark?
(7:17)"And the flood was forty days upon the earth."
How long did the flood last?
(7:19-20) "The mountains were covered."
The flood covered the highest mountain tops (Mount Everest?) with fifteen cubits to spare. Where did all the water come from? Where did it all go? Why is there no evidence of such a massive flood in the geological record?
(7:21-23)
The Flood of Noah: All flesh died that moved upon the earth.
God drowned everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. (Except for the Nephilium, that is.)
Did everyone die in the flood?
Dwindling in Unbelief: God's First Killing
Drunk With Blood Audiobook: 1. The Flood of Noah:
All flesh died that moved upon the earth
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(7:24) "And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days."
How long did the flood last?


Noah's Ark
7:1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
7:5 And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.
7:6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.
7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,
7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
The Great Flood
7:10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.
7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
7:14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.
7:16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.
7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
7:18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
7:24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (60857)10/19/2014 8:14:20 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Where does it say or show any Pharoah ever forcing anyone to worship Egyptian gods including the Hebrew? Not once is the answer, they seemed to be more tolerant for their time. This is nothing but a contrived later propagandized tale, one of many patterned narratives based on Babylonian themes & later Greek myths Hebrew scribes imitated centuries later. When they finally learned how to write such grand stories after exposure to the temple literatures of Babylonian stay.

All you are doing is making petty jealous declarations now of

'my god is bigger & wiser than yours"

Which would have been exactly the same motivation for those tiny confused tribal scribes fresh from Babylon to cobble in such claims. Especially that far later on after 600BC when Egypt had lost her stature & power to the Assyrians etc. And also when the Hebrews finally learn to compose such fables & have developed writing skills, as we see they were hardly literate in 150BC with the DSS.

In any case, the secular world was guaranteed, all you are living in is a brief interlude period that lasted with your Roman Empire religious cult for about 1500yrs till today. And still we see the jealous fools like you making the same stupid comparisons & apologetics over what has always been Greek philosophy & metaphysics.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (60857)10/19/2014 8:24:26 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
We all get that the spirit of life is a great experience,it was humorous watching some young preacher today stumble & fumble over trying to prove the "Holy Spirit" exists. You people are such clutzes when it comes to the simple stuff and as always you remain the world's greatest materialist with that physical resurrection nonsense.

Cmon now, admit it was all a metaphor then its easy to procede and end the endless bullshitting back & forth between these jealous tribal traditions Islam, Judaism & Christians. Why not let the world have some peace...

Probably more atheists & agnostics exist today because they're all too busy experiencing that very same thing which you call "God", certainly.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (60857)10/19/2014 8:32:39 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
And 1500BC there was not even the remotest chance (insane to even think) that 600,000 Hebrews would have just trapesied out of Egypt, when that empire was entering into the absolute zenith of its power. They had outposts everywhere even up in the Levant itself in Gaza & Megiddo, so how did this happen?

It didn't happen.

One is just so astonished that any rabbi, mullah or jesuit with 1/2 a brain would even consider such nonsense to be real. But we've seen the Catholics admit themselves many of these things already, they just dont publicize it.

One of the reasons we have such strife in the world, people swallow such foolish fables & refuse to consider what the real world is telling us. That would include many educated apologist that know that this never happened.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (60857)10/19/2014 8:38:59 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
In any case, the secular world was guaranteed, the secular, non-supernatural classics returned, you are living in a brief interlude period that started with a Roman Empire religious cult and has lasted for about 1500yrs . And still we see the jealous fools like you making the same stupid comparisons & apologetics over what has always been Greek philosophy & metaphysics.If you want right living there is a magzine of that name or you can go join Mitt Romney's LDS church or any one of the 10,000 other cults out there.

I bet my Holy Spirit is bigger than yours by a few billion light years & by four billion years and my angels are 5million miles tall....whatever.