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To: Greg or e who wrote (61529)	10/30/2014 12:29:07 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

“you aren't even close to having a defensible argument for killing human beings at early stages of development” Not my argument. You must be on the wrong bus, Senora! “you support abortion at all stages prior to actual birth.” Let’s keep in mind that you are lying and we have washed those dirty socks before. I have never supported abortion at any stage--not ever. I support the RIGHT of women to their body, to their life, and to aborting their egg/fetus if they choose. Human beings have collectively and logically determined that a human egg is not a human being and a chicken egg is not a chicken. We could certainly decide otherwise, if we chose to--but that would create insurmountable difficulties in removing the rights of a woman to fundamental rights and freedoms. Whether or not we forcibly captured women and forced them to give birth in Government birth centers while manacled and restrained would be merely a question of pragmatism. Rational people will not willingly embrace premises which lead to logical contradictions. “A human being who kills another defenseless Human being for the sake of convenience is committing murder” Yes, but this is not the argument. Your argument is that the billions of women who abort their egg each day are murderers—like members of ISIS or like serial killers? Indeed, you would erase the distinction between evil, despicable, monstrous humans...and the great mass of humanity who are fair, decent, and above board--loving human beings who value the life of all sentient creatures. Humans have assumed a great moral responsibility by accepting the burden of thought--that willing charge which leads to the burden of responsibility and thence to accountability. It is the reason we are having this discussion with (I hope) the sincere exploration of our obligation (if any) to the unborn. I have said many times that I will be happy when the question of abortion is historical and academic—when women routinely avoid contraception by distracting the male with baseball cards or colorful pictures of quail or bi-sexual monkeys. Humans determine what is moral and what is immoral. Giving an egg “rights” leads to contradictions in human rights which is why intelligent rational humans will simply not grant rights to eggs—even though we may well grant universal rights to certain animals… And let us not forget, that this hysterical mission of yours stems from a psychological need for importance and attention. You no more care for an egg or a fetus than you care for the millions of people who die every day all over the world beyond your sight and ken. Your contorted features as you sob and writhe are all an existential cry to the world to be seen and heard. You ought to address that issue like a man before you do something regrettable. The stridency you always bring to this discussion gives you away just like the TROLL boy's stunned taunts and insults as he staggers from thread to thread around SI expose his essential inner loneliness and sense of worthlessness. All people need to be seen and heard. This is the essential human predicament. It is what Dahmer was doing, what TROLL boy is doing--what you are doing. If you would stop wailing like a banshee, I might be able to notice you...