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To: Robert Winchell who wrote (479)	12/16/1997 1:08:00 PM
From: Kal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1600

Ok. You are confusing "choice" with "convenience" Then that's what you must've meant by choice in your prior post! You meant convenience. the fridge comes for free, but has different requirements and features that only the original provider can provide you. Maybe you don't pay for it now, you might down the road. Maybe you'll never have to pay to maintain this fridge. But you see, people are of habits. Once you start using it, you'll probably want to keep it. In keeping it you're locking yourself with that provider for a long time and paying whatever it takes to keep that fridge. This concept of free is oxymoronic. There is no such thing. I'll let you make sense of this. If you love MS products, then good. I don't. You're not right and I'm not wrong and vise versa. It seems to me we both've made up our minds cheers.

To: Robert Winchell who wrote (479)	12/16/1997 1:40:00 PM
From: Judd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1600

Who keeps saying that IE is free? It is not! I don't think that programmers came to MS and wrote that thing for free. They took profits from other sources and used them to develop this thing and dump it to put Netscape out of business. I have heard Gates say that you used to have to buy a TCP/IP stack separately, but now its in the OS. I can almost see that because the Network card is the hardware and this is just the standard way to interface to it. Now I rarely see anyone put an aftermarket TCP/IP stack on an NT machine (Doesn't NetManage still sell these?) The problem as I see it is not the choice, but the cost of the choice. IE isn't free and shouldn't be allowed to be given away for the sole purpose of putting competition to rest. Unless it is part of the operating system of course and I just cannot see that. BTW I don't consider File manager, editors, paint programs and all that extra stuff to be the operating system. They are "free" utilities. They are even installed by default under the accessories folder. Judd

To: Robert Winchell who wrote (479)	12/16/1997 7:53:00 PM
From: Schiz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1600

IE is not free but the cost is bundled with the os, it's a package deal. Anyone that buys the os with ie and opts to use a different browser paid for something they didn't want. Maybe they should make the os include a spread sheet, database, word processor , desktop publisher, personal finace program , browser and charge $1000 for the os. Would everyone still beleive that the additions are free? I've heard alot of talk about electronics being integrated and people (I'm not sure who, maybe you , may microsoft) comparing the microsoft browser/os to this. How does the price in electronics components over the last 10years compare to the price in os's (win95 vs 3.1). I don't know the answer to this so actual data and or links would be appreciated. You can buy computer chips that are twice as fast as ones were just a few years ago for probably half the price. Can you say the same for win95? is it twice as good (as 3.1) and half the cost?