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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (61873)11/4/2014 12:50:43 AM
From: Solon  Respond to of 69300
 
He was really on the Kickapoo juice! Revenge...it drives little minds. It didn't know when or if he would run out of steam. I was afraid he might call me an astronaut or maybe a transvestite. Thank God, he didn't bring out his big weapons!

OMG...maybe a quadriplegic? Or somebody with a club foot like Philip Carey! Probably the booze saved me. He couldn't find the handle...

I kept thinking, please don't say my mamma wears army boots! Please, please, please...doan say dat.

Hey wait! After all I have said to Jesus, He still loves me! Well, I'll be a son of a rancher!



To: 2MAR$ who wrote (61873)11/4/2014 8:35:41 AM
From: Solon  Respond to of 69300
 
Gregoree must have passed out. TROLL boy just lost it this morning when I revealed that his trolling had started with his mother. WOW!

"It is about your mother, isn't it TROLL boy"" The reason you come here to troll and dump knowing you will get kicked and hurt. But you just need to feel something, don't you??

You see, I know things happen for a reason. There was (and is) a reason why you are a troll--and a reason why you crave attention so much that a kick and a cuff makes you feel better.

Thanks for your contribution, TROLL boy. Sad when getting your troll head batted around every morning is the equivalent of a mother's love for you? You miss her TROLL boy? Did you ever have feelings??

TROLL jlallen New Hampshire attorney troll Bedford, troll jlallen, TROLL boyAre you
Homosexual??? Is that why you troll, jlellen--(claiming to be from New Hampshire)???

He just went bizarre. Threshing around with several dozen posts which I graciously responded to and forced him to confront the issue. We knew there had to be a reason why someone would say, "Hey, I'm an adult. I have a job"...etc.--and then spend his time posting insults, taunts, and cheap invective like an emotionally damaged 12 year old child? Why would anybody crave that kind of attention, so badly???

Clearly, feeling anything is better than nothing for him. The studies were right on! Psychopathic, narcissistic, and sadistic"! Wow! Is the TROLL boy NAILED! And it all started with his mom--it would appear? I wonder if he ever felt anything???? Poor kid. You gotta feel sorry for him, eh??

internet trolls are indeed “Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists”...".the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls areprototypical everyday sadists." ...

Buckels, Erin E., Paul D. Trapnell, and Delroy L. Paulhus. "Trolls just want to have fun."Personality and Individual Differences67 (2014): 97-102.”
jlallen attorney troll new Hampshire silicon investor SI Evolution



To: 2MAR$ who wrote (61873)11/4/2014 9:23:31 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Some interesting commentary! Unlike other creation stories, the Raelians can not be discounted out of hand due to absurdities, contradictions, etc. :-)

Darwinian Biologist Says: Don't Be So Quick to Dismiss Raëlian Science

Michael Egnor October 31, 2014 12:33 PM |

Free-will denier Jerry Coyne, who is a biology professor at the University of Chicago and an ardent Darwinist, informs us of this new piece of important scientific research:

Science proves that consecrated wafers are still wheat and not Jesus

I don't know much about the Raëlian Movement, but what I've learned suggests that Raëlians are plenty weird. Their faith is based on Earth's life having been created by space aliens, so they're creationists, and they have all kinds of strange views, including a form of baptism that alters your genetic makeup but prepares you for your eventual judgment by the aliens.

Actually, the theory that space aliens may have seeded the Earth with life is called panspermia, and has been proposed by many prominent Darwinists. Richard Dawkins has very publicly endorsed it. And Neil deGrasse Tyson has proposed that we fear space aliens because they will judge us. Episode 11 of Cosmos is devoted to the topic. (See Casey Luskin's discussion of panspermia in The Unofficial Guide to Cosmos.)

[Raëlians are] a small sect, cult, or religion (whatever you want to call them): Wikipedia estimates that there are only about 90,000 members worldwide.

Which is roughly the number of evolutionary biologists worldwide, another small cult.

On the other hand, the sect has some good liberal views....

These views include being "in favor of food derived from GMOs," and being "anti-Catholic." Raëlian science is therefore trustworthy. You can see the logic in it.

The last view is probably one that gave rise to the "research" paper I'll highlight today. Yes, a Raëlian group did some research, and I'm not going to dismiss it out of hand simply because of who did it (if that were the case, I'd dismiss the Human Genome Project simply because it was headed by born-again Christian Francis Collins).

Right. There's no reason to dismiss Raëlian science out of hand, just because the scientists are a bit quirky. If it's Raëlian science, just follow the evidence wherever it leads.

Damien Marsic and Mehran Sam, identified as belonging to the Association of Raëlian Scientists (in Las Vegas), have published a paper in a place called "Scientific Raëlian."

Peer-reviewed journal. It takes a while to get a paper published, because the editorial office is in Sagittarius.

... the paper's title is " DNA analysis of consecrated sacramental wafers refutes Catholic transubstantiation claim."

This is in fact a piece of research I've always wanted someone to do.

Coyne actually links to the journal.

Since Catholics believe in transubstantiation (the wafer and wine become the body and blood of Christ during the Eucharist) and not consubstantiation (the wafer and wine are partly made of Jesus, and partly of grapes and wheat), an analysis of a consecrated wafer should show that its substance is entirely that of the human body.

Perhaps Coyne, a geneticist himself, couldn't obtain a Host to do the research, because the Raëlians told him that if he went into a Catholic church, he'd burst into flames.

Now we know that a wafer and wine don't change into a beaker of blood and a gobbet of flesh after they're blessed, but one other strategy is to look at the DNA in these substances. Perhaps (or so the Raëlian investigators thought), they'd find human DNA -- Jesus' -- in the wafer and wine... And so Marsic and Sam did a study. They purloined five consecrated wafers (they discuss the ethics of this, and decide that it's okay), and analyzed the DNA of the consecrated wafers as well as that of a "control" group of unconsecrated wafers, a "human DNA" control group from cultured cells, and a negative control (nothing added to the PCR [DNA amplification] reagents).

Coyne actually shows a picture of the Raëlians' agarose gel. He doesn't bat an eye at citing research done by scientists from " The World's Strangest -- and Nicest -- UFO Sex Clone Religion." The result is negative -- there's no human DNA in the Consecrated Host. Coyne summates:

This is why the Raëlian experiment will be ignored by the Church, but also why we should ignore the Church's pronouncements about reality, for they reflect sets of claims that are untestable but satisfy our emotional needs.

Unlike Coyne, I doubt Copernicus' Church pays much attention to Raëlians, although the Swiss Guard probably keeps track of them if they visit St. Peter's Square.

Transubstantiation is a matter of some debate among Christians, but it is a theological and metaphysical debate, not a scientific one.

Coyne's take on the Raëlian "research" is hilarious, not the least because he gets the Church's theology precisely wrong. The modern iteration of the doctrine of transubstantiation was worked out in the 13th century by the scholastic philosophers, most notably St. Thomas, who proposed that the change in the Host is substantial, not accidental. All of the properties that could be measured by science are accidental, and do not change with consecration. The presenceof human DNA in the Host would have overturned a millennium of Church doctrine.

There's a deep irony here. Coyne mocks Catholic transubstantiation, yet insists that life itself is a grand materialist transubstantiation. Coyne believes that over the past five billion years non-living matter transubstantiated, without intelligent agency, into all life on Earth.

Darwin is Coyne's Aquinas, and natural selection consecrated the primordial soup. The wafer became us.

Image: Japanese Raëlian character mascot/Wikipedia.