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To: i-node who wrote (815108)	11/4/2014 11:37:19 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 1578501

I Attended an ALEC Conference — and Found an Alternative Universe May 15, 2014 by Chris Taylor George W. Bush's Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael Leavitt addresses members of the American Legislative Exchange Council in 2004. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson) The post originally appeared at The Progressive. Last week I traveled to Missouri to attend my second American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) conference. As a state legislator from Wisconsin, I joined ALEC last year. That was the beginning of my journey into a parallel world. In the ALEC otherworld, the three branches of government are: 1) Multinational corporations, including Anheuser-Busch and Koch Industries, 2) Right-wing think tanks networked together through the State Policy Network, and 3) State legislators like me — although, as a progressive Democrat, I don’t fit the mold. Most of my colleagues who belong to ALEC are Republicans and many are tea partiers. The three branches work together to construct and advance model bills in state legislatures throughout the country to further ALEC’s agenda of corporate dominance. more at billmoyers.com

To: i-node who wrote (815108)	11/4/2014 1:27:00 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1578501

The reason great presidents are great is that they get things done. Reagan got serious tax reform done, for example, by working with the opposition party. LBJ (not saying he's great but he did get some important things done) used different tactics but his opponents respected him and did as they were told. GWB got a hell of a lot done and that is the reason he will be seen as great. Obama has gotten nothing done. The one accomplishment was the enactment of a law that is universally hated and that hatred is getting worse as time goes on. And it isn't Republicans. The problem is that Obama and Reid wanted all or nothing, and they're going to end up with nothing. That's on them. After the fucked over the Republicans time and again, it was impossible for them to make a deal because they had no credibility. Dave, you are hardly objective about anything to do with politics; to whit, despite all the evidence that he was a terrible president, you still love Bush. And your hatred of Obama is not to be believed...........and that's true of your entire cohort. That's why many of us believe it has to do with racism because its so irrational..........that and the fact he is far more competent than Bush was. Nonetheless, I tire of this discussion. Like I said, Obama's chance at greatness has been thwarted but he will still go down in the books as a good, ground breaking president. I strongly believe history will prove me right.