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To: koan who wrote (146895)11/9/2014 2:54:56 PM
From: pcstel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
<koan: "you don't mind being ignorant? That is an amazing statement.<

Not at all...Do I care that you think I am ignorant! NOPE!! You have no basis for your presentation because you have very little credibility in the eyes of the author.

It appears you have very poor management skills, based on the fact that you have been through, how many is it? I believe the number is Three failed marriages/families. Managing a successful family is like running a successful business.. It appears you are the Donald Trump of the Family Management world. If you were in Business.. You would be 3 for 3 in Bankruptcy. It appears you can't manage your own life.. Last thing I need is you attempting to dictate to me how to run mine.

<koan: "It is not just me, it is civilization that thinks you should. But keep on defending your ignorance. I am sure your kids and grand kids respect you for doing that.<

I guess that would be considered "subjective". If you consider yourself as the spokesmen for "civilization", and why not? Hasn't stopped you up until now. I am defending my "core values", and beliefs. You don't like them.. I DON'T CARE.. Your definition of civilization doesn't agree with them... I DON'T CARE. PERIOD! Get over it!

,koan: <Your kids and grand kids would applaud you if you quit being proud of your antiquated thinking.<
OUR kids are proud of their family unit. The Family Unit still intact 33 years later. I still Love my wife like Day 1. Of course there were trying times.. But, Good Management skills allowed the family to traverse those trying times.. Making our relationship stronger in the process.

>koan: I did nothing of the sort. I married each woman over a decade after my divorce. We liberals do not think people should stay in bad marriages if they don't want to and find nothing wrong with getting a divorce if the marriage isn't working. And it is usually better for the kids.<

Bad marriages are a function of poor decision making and poor management. Then you want to tell me how to live my life??? Thanks, but no Thanks.

Good to hear that your lack of Personal Management skills, and only being their "half the time"didn't affect your children's outcome to a large extent.

<Psychologists today feel "family function" is much more important than "family structure"!<

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Others have found an arrangement other than living with two biological parents to be associated with elevated DSM-IV substance abuse and dependence symptoms ( Barrett & Turner, 2006), increased rates of daily cigarette smoking ( Miller & Volk, 2002), and smoking initiation ( Edelen et al., 2007). Though, in the latter study, the presence of an adult or older sibling who smoked counteracted the protective effect of the nuclear family. Several explanations have been offered for this phenomenon. Single parents may be less able to provide consistent supervision and monitoring of their children, so youth from single parent households have more opportunities to experiment with substance use and other delinquent behaviors compared to youth from two-parent households

<We liberals do not think people should stay in bad marriages if they don't want to and find nothing wrong with getting a divorce if the marriage isn't working. And it is usually better for the kids<

Failed marriages are a function of poor decision making and poor management skills.

Let's read about the difference between "Educated Liberals", and "Uneducated Liberals" on Marriage.
bloombergview.com

<But is this true? Last year, I read a book that changed my outlook on American society: Charles Murray’s `` Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010.” In that book, Murray convincingly argues that a class divide has emerged in America, between educated people (“Belmont”) and uneducated people (“Fishtown”). The surprising thing is that Murray finds that the educated Belmonters, despite being much more socially liberal than their Fishtown counterparts, actually have more traditional family values -- they get married more, get divorced less and pay more attention to their children. After a period in the '70s and early '80s when educated people dabbled in single parenthood and high divorce rates, they went back to a traditional-family structure. Uneducated Americans, on the other hand, are abandoning marriage and two-parent child-rearing in droves.<


<We liberals put our kids first and feel a stable home and education are of the utmost importance.<

Interesting.. I have always put my Wife First with an emphasis on the Family Unit second. As the Head of the Family/Manger, my requirements come last. Just as in running a successful business.. Employees come first...

And so it goes,
PCSTEL