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To: Solon who wrote (62311)	11/10/2014 4:20:41 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

Such accrued skills as measurement & math from those cvilizations that existed long enough to develope writing, observe, record & keep them is the start, remembering the 3million years before of our just flinting knives & crude stone axes and planting large stones. But eventually seeing & undertsanding those same celestial geometries observed in the heavens could be recreated in real terms, translated to earthly constructions like obelisques, sanctuaries & masssive pyramid temples, is the resulting culmination of all those millions of years. The Hebrews are famous for their lack of building skills & primitive beginnings, as their rediculous inflationary history & numbers attest. Then in Genesis they go the opposite route stuck in tribal propaganda mode & completely blow understanding just how truely old & vast this creation is. Though some of it shines thru, a sense of that 'bigness' that only would have come thru from the Egyptians who did have the record keeping, building skills, the mathematics & geometrical understanding, and did have a clue. There;s just so much more to the human experience of all cultures on earth, to relegate it to some voiciferous tiny tribe out of 100s of other tiny tribes in the sinai is too rediculous. Sagan is really being too kind here, the only people who could even concieve of parting seas & rivers would have been the Egyptians, there is probably not one thing in the Bible that is original, divinely inspired, not one single thing.

To: Solon who wrote (62311)	11/10/2014 4:54:21 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Speaking of biblical quail...look here on ancient hebrew/habiru, this is taken from the Egyptian name for "quail chicks" , how curious. .....The names Habiru and Apiru are used in Akkadian cuneiform texts. The corresponding name in the Egyptian script appears to be conventionally pronounced Apiru or " quail-chick" being used as the Egyptian plural suffix). Such serendipty huh? More on these ancient 'hebrews" or 'habiru' : en.wikipedia.org Carol Redmount, who wrote 'Bitter Lives: Israel in and out of Egypt' in The Oxford History of the Biblical World, concluded that the term "Habiru" had no common ethnic affiliations, that they spoke no common language, and that they normally led a marginal and sometimes lawless existence on the fringes of settled society. [3] She defines the various Apiru/Habiru as "a loosely defined, inferior social class composed of shifting and shifty population elements without secure ties to settled communities" who are referred to "as outlaws, mercenaries, and slaves" in ancient texts. [3] In that vein, some modern scholars consider the Habiru to be more of a social designation than an ethnic or a tribal one. [4]