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To: DMaA who wrote (3404)	11/10/2014 2:50:31 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 7928

No angels are on this other 'real' plane, real big stuff, bigger than Thor or the Ice Giants...there's one that was giving Moses a hard time in heaven which Jehova had to discipline, according to some lore was over 2million miles tall. They were always going crazy with their cubits & doobits.

To: DMaA who wrote (3404)	11/10/2014 2:55:07 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7928

Angel Hadraniel ( sixty myriads tall, definitely daunting figure, made Moses weep ) Whose name means "majesty [or greatness] of God," is an angel in Jewish Angelology assigned as gatekeeper at the second gate in heaven. [1] He is supposed to be more than sixty myriads of parasangs (approximately 2.1 million miles) tall and a daunting figure to face. When Moses arrived in heaven to get the Torah from God, it was said that he was speechless with awe at the sight of Hadraniel. [2] Hadraniel didn't think Moses should have the Torah, and made him weep in fear, which caused God to appear and reprimand Hadraniel for causing problems. Hadraniel quickly decided to behave and acted as a guide for Moses. This was a great help, for (according to Zoharic legend) "when Hadraniel proclaims the will of the Lord, his voice penetrates through 200,000 firmaments." [3] Also, according to the Revelation of Moses, "with every word from his (Hadraniel's) mouth go forth 12,000 flashes of lightning." [4] In Gnosticism Hadraniel is only one of seven subordinates to Jehuel, prince of fire (King,p. 15). In the Zohar (55b), Hadraniel speaks to Adam about Adam's possession of the Book of the Angel Raziel, which was said to contain secret information that not even the angels knew.

To: DMaA who wrote (3404)	11/10/2014 3:06:49 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 7928

Parasang....Of some interest, the Hebrews were expressing the height of this Angel in Persian unit measure ( after Babylon lots of contact with them, they were big on winged angels too) en.wikipedia.org The parasang also finds use in the Babylonian Talmud, in several uses, one being the calculation of the width of Jacob's Ladder as 8,000 parasangs. The 1st-century Pliny (Natural History vi.26) noted that the Iranians themselves assigned different lengths to it. [3] On the authority of older sources, the 14th-century Qazvinian historiographer Hamdullah Mostofi records that in the 10th century the north-eastern parasang was 15,000 paces, the north-western one was 18,000 paces, and the one of the south-west was merely 6,000 paces (but the "true" parasang, so Mostofi, was 9,000 paces). [5] Recalling local legend, Mostofi states the unit was defined by the mythological Kai Kobad to be equal to 12,000 cubits. [6]