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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (264064)11/11/2014 4:43:03 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 540836
 
The Patriot... The Nam Years... The Eastern Front... defending the beaches of France by himself, with one war photographer




To: cnyndwllr who wrote (264064)11/12/2014 12:35:54 AM
From: Win Smith  Respond to of 540836
 
Ed, Hitler and Stalin shared the ideology of being basically nuts. I think one of the saddest things in WWII was the poor Russian POWs, who were pretty brutally treated by the Germans, but when they were "liberated", they were sent straight to the Gulag by Stalin. Paranoia is not exactly a sound ideology.

Anyway, your closing remarks on the brutality of war put me in mind of an old historical fascination of mine, Tamerlane aka Timur, now the Pride of Uzbekistan it seems. The accounts are pretty murky for someone who lived in the 1300s, but it seems he wiped out a bunch of substantial kingdoms in Central Asia that never quite revived, and had a tendency to leave pyramids of skulls behind him. Checking for any new info in Wikipedia, the article had a surprise ending:

It is alleged that Timur's tomb was inscribed with the words, "When I rise from the dead, the world shall tremble." It is also said that when Gerasimov exhumed the body, an additional inscription inside the casket was found reading, "Who ever opens my tomb, shall unleash an invader more terrible than I." [61] In any case, the same day Gerasimov begun the exhumation, Adolf Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa, the largest military invasion of all time, upon the USSR. [62] Timur was re-buried with full Islamic ritual in November 1942 just before the Soviet victory at the Battle of Stalingrad. [63]