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To: Brumar89 who wrote (62899)	11/17/2014 2:07:23 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

You have a thing for circumcision ( & weenies) don't you? A bit queer but with you no wonder. Now moving on here's the head Dean/Rabbi from Harvard....... Shaye Cohen en.wikipedia.org Abraham is a fiction boyyo, as real as Gandalf in the Hobbit: (and Moses) The biblical narrative gets going with Abraham in Genesis chapter 12. Abraham in turn Isaac, in turn Jacob, in turn Joseph and the twelve tribes, this brings us directly to the people of Israel and the covenant at Sinai. So Abraham is thought of as the first Jew, the archetype. Historically speaking, of course, this doesn't make much sense. It's hard to talk about Jews living around the year 1800 B.C.E. or anytime near that. We don't have any of the institutions, beliefs, social structures in place that will later characterize Jews and Jewishness. So in a mythic kind of way we can say that Abraham recognizes God and that Abraham launches the process—biological and social and cultural—that will culminate in the people of Israel, who in turn will become Jews and the purveyors of Judaism. But to call Abraham Jewish simplifies things very dramatically.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (62899)	11/17/2014 2:45:14 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Dean of the Grad school of most prestigious US Jewish seminary & present head of Harvard's Jewish philosphy & lit depts now admitting this old testament stuff is all mythology? You see science can't work this way, he's saying exactly what i have been all along, amazes this stuff is let go. So what's next, we find the Egyptians were the authors of the Ten Commandments all along? What other big revelations get admitted to, that were this obvious all along while were on the subject? Historically speaking, of course, this doesn't make much sense. It's hard to talk about Jews living around the year 1800 B.C.E. or anytime near that. We don't have any of the institutions, beliefs, social structures in place that will later characterize Jews and Jewishness.