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To: Greg or e who wrote (63121)11/21/2014 3:51:12 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
"CO2 is not a pollutant. There is no need to keep it out of the environment"

How did you ever get so dumb? Why is it you think nothing noxious or dangerous exists unless it be labelled a "pollutant"?

Firstly, CO2 certainly IS a pollutant and is treated as such by the EPA.

In Massachusetts v. Environmental Protection Agency (in 2007), the US Supreme Court held that the Clean Air Act gives the EPA the authority to regulate tailpipe emissions of greenhouse gases. Two years after the Supreme Court ruling, in 2009 the EPA issued an endangerment finding concluding that
"greenhouse gases in the atmosphere may reasonably be anticipated both to endanger public health and to endanger public welfare....The major assessments by the U.S. Global Climate Research Program (USGCRP), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and the National Research Council (NRC) serve as the primary scientific basis supporting the Administrator’s endangerment finding."
Greenhouse gases including CO2 unquestionably fit the Clean Air Act's broad definition of "air pollutants," and must be listed and regulated by the EPA if it can be determined that they endanger public heath and/or welfare.

Alternatively, the definition of "pollution" from Encyclopedia Brittanica is:
"the addition of any substance (solid, liquid, or gas) or any form of energy (such as heat, sound, or radioactivity) to the environment at a rate faster than it can be dispersed, diluted, decomposed, recycled, or stored in some harmless form."

Thus legally in the USA, CO2 is an air pollutant which must be regulated if it may endanger publich health or welfare. And according to the encyclopedic definition, CO2 is a pollutant unless our emissions can be stored "harmlessly."

Secondly, you are setting up a straw man (what else is new?). Something does not need to be labelled a 'pollutant' to be harmful or to be regulated. Hell, WATER can be dangerous! And most cities have regulations to limit the dangers caused by water whether it be purification plants or dams to control flooding. You gotta get off those stupid pills, Bubba...

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To: Greg or e who wrote (63121)11/22/2014 12:03:00 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
It's not feasible to keep cow poop out of the environment either, but pretty much everyone would agree that we would like to limit the amount.