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To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 7:27:06 PM
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You should listen to the actual radio calls.



To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 7:33:47 PM
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joseffy

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No one questioned this. Why?

Because it's not true.

Try relying on facts rather than spin from libtard sites looking to start riots.

Please try to post facts and truth.

Keep the lies and bs on the libtard sites that don't question such phony stuff.



To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 8:20:27 PM
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You want an example of a huge hole? Obama, the commander in chief is unaccounted for during the time the US Libyan ambassador was getting killed.



To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 8:22:09 PM
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Ferguson Protesters Torch US Flag – National Guard Picks Up the Pieces



To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 8:36:20 PM
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As Democratic infighting intensifies, Hagel allies fire back at the White House
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Hotair ^
| 11/30/2014 | NOAH ROTHMAN





Among Democrats, fighting is breaking out all over.

The Senate’s third-ranking Democrat, Chuck Schumer (D-NY), is hurling criticisms toward the White House over Barack Obama’s handling of the recession and his myopic and politically ruinous obsession with reforming the nation’s health care system amid that economic downturn.

In response, the White House took what Reuters called the “ unusual step” of publicly pledging to veto an overdue plan to reform the nation’s tax code which Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has been in the process of negotiating with House Republicans.

When Obama announced his intention to extend legal status to millions of illegal immigrants by executive fiat, it also exposed fissures within the Democratic Party. A number of Senate Democrats, including Sens. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), Joe Manchin (D-WV), Joe Donnelly (D-IN), and Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), expressed their dissatisfaction with Obama’s actions in clear and uncertain terms.

Manchin, Donnelly, and Heitkamp had previously spoken in support Sen. Mary Landrieu’s (D-LA) failed effort to pass a measure approving the construction of the Keystone Pipeline against the wishes of the White House. Alongside Sens. Jon Tester (D-MT), these centrist Democrats could emerge as a bloc of votes that would help the incoming majority Republican Party advance legislation through the Senate.

“There is clearly a lot of unhappiness and a lot of mistrust that exists between the president and his congressional party,” Rutgers University professor Ross Baker told Reuters.

The gradual implosion of the Democratic Party’s formerly vaunted unity is not merely limited to Capitol Hill. The squabbling is coming from inside the White House.

Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel might have gone quietly. Reports that few have reason to doubt indicate that he was as frustrated with the president’s management as were his last two predecessors. The even-tempered former Nebraska politician has never been one to backbite. He may have been content to shuffle off stage and keep his unfiltered thoughts about Obama to himself if the administration had not tried to cast him as the source of so many of its present difficulties on the defense policy front. But the political service Hagel could perform as a symbol of an administration sloughing off encumbering detritus proved too tempting for the White House.

“Hagel never really proved himself,” NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell revealed while summarizing the thoughts of one or several of her sources within the administration.

“Mr. Hagel has often had problems articulating his thoughts — or administration policy — in an effective manner,” The New York Times echoed.

In a subsequent Times dispatch, one administration official said that the president felt he would benefit politically from the removal of one of his Cabinet members. “So he went for the low-hanging fruit,” the official said casually.

The president’s aides went on, apparently, to cast Hagel in the role of scapegoat.

“Aides said Mr. Obama made the decision to remove his defense secretary on Friday after weeks of rising tensions over a variety of issues, including what administration officials said were Mr. Hagel’s delays in transferring detainees from the military prison in Guantanamo Bay and a dispute with Susan E. Rice, the national security advisor, over Syria policy.”

For a time, sources close to Hagel had kept their side of the story to themselves. Someone described as a “senior defense official” told CBS that Hagel was “fed up with micromanagement” from the administration, but that was the extent of Hagel’s attempt at self-defense. That was not to last.

In an illuminating piece in The Wall Street Journal published last week, individuals close to Hagel revealed that he was only leaving his post after a “year of frustrations.” That piece included a number of damning quotes that indicate that Obama, not Hagel, is the source of the administration’s woes.

“One of the things that Hagel values most is clarity,” said a confidante of the defense secretary. “That’s not something that this White House has always done well.”

James Jeffrey, who served as Mr. Obama’s ambassador in Turkey and Iraq, said of Mr. Hagel: “His removal won’t make things better because he was not the source of the problem. The problems seem to be closer to the president.”

Moreover, the report alleges, Hagel served as Obama’s unsolicited Casandra. He reportedly issued a series of prophetic warnings about the deteriorating international security environment that went unheeded.

Sources close to Hagel suggest that he became disillusioned when the president cancelled a plan to strike pro-Assad targets in Syria just one day before they were slated to begin. The Pentagon chief’s exasperation grew when he reportedly warned the president to take firm and prompt measures which would communicate to Vladimir Putin that his aggression in Ukraine would not go unopposed. “Moscow – not the Middle East – posed the most serious long-term threat to international security, Mr. Hagel told the president,” The Journal reported.

“Mr. Hagel tried to move the ball forward with Mr. Obama directly. In a private meeting in late July, he warned Mr. Obama that the U.S. wasn’t focused enough on Russia, and was lurching from crisis to crisis without direction, according to a senior defense official,” the report revealed.

All of Hagel’s warnings went ignored. America is now entering the conflict in Syria too late and with conditions far less favorable than they were in the autumn of 2013. Russia has expanded the conflict in Ukraine, and threatens to destabilize more of that country and other former Soviet Republics. Hagel may not be the farsighted sage that this report portrays him to be, but it is clear his side of the story of his time in the White House is a bit more complicated than the administration would like to suggest.

If nothing else, it seems likely that Hagel will be the third consecutive secretary of defense serving under Obama to write an unfavorable account of the president’s managerial style after leaving office.



To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 8:41:14 PM
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Rich Lowry's Inconvenient Ferguson Truths Cause Panelist Outrage
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By P.J. Gladnick | November 30, 2014



Eeek! How dare he?!

National Review editor Rich Lowry actually committed the "heresy" of citing the evidence presented to the Ferguson case grand jury on Meet The Press today. Such evidence is rarely cited by liberal circles because it confirms the account given by police officer Darren Wilson. Lowry's flagrant disregard of avoiding the inconvenient truths caused quite a reaction from Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post who was left sputtering in reply and from Andrea Mitchell who entertained the audience with her body language outrage.


CHUCK TODD: Rich, what's interesting when you look at whites, whites that live in urban communities believe that we still have a race problem in this country. Whites that live in more rural, basically whiter communities, they don't see the race issue. Do you think that's part of our divide? That maybe rural whites don't see this issue the way folks that live in urban America?

RICH LOWRY: Perhaps, but you look at Ferguson specifically, this is an area where the governmental structures haven't caught up to the demographic change over the last two decades or so. And that's something you take care of simply by organizing and voting. But what I really object to is you can discuss all these problems but let's not pretend this particular incident was something it wasn't. If you look at the most credible evidence, the lessons are really basic. Don't rob a convenience store. Don't fight a policeman when he stops you and try to take his gun. And when he yells at you to stop with his gun drawn, just stop.

ANDREA MITCHELL (interrupting): Whoa!

Be sure to check out Mitchell's body language. It's like she can't believe that someone would actually (GASP!) bring up the facts of the case.

Later Eugene Robinson sputters out his reply that leads nowhere:

EUGENE ROBINSON: ...We're not in the re-litigation business so we won't go into the whole thing but there was conflicting testimony, there were witnesses who simply were not believed who said otherwise. And there were witnesses who were believed who, who...

LOWRY: The physical evidence backs up officer Wilson's version. And that's why the grand jury...





Lowry was absolutely right. The physical evidence presented to the grand jury absolutely backs up officer Wilson as Lowry wrote in The Ferguson Fraud:

...the credible evidence (i.e., the testimony that doesn't contradict itself or the physical evidence) suggests that Michael Brown had no interest in surrendering. After committing an act of petty robbery at a local business, he attacked Officer Wilson when he stopped him on the street. Brown punched Wilson when the officer was still in his patrol car and attempted to take his gun from him.

The first shots were fired within the car in the struggle over the gun. Then, Michael Brown ran. Even if he hadn't put his hands up, but merely kept running away, he would also almost certainly be alive today. Again, according to the credible evidence, he turned back and rushed Wilson. The officer shot several times, but Brown kept on coming until Wilson killed him.

And as we saw on Meet The Press, the liberals simply refuse to address the evidence in the case as Lowry also points out:

When the facts didn't back their narrative, they dismissed the facts and retreated into paranoid suspicion of the legal system. It apparently required more intellectual effort than almost any liberal could muster even to say, "You know, I believe policing in America is deeply unjust, but in this case the evidence is murky and not enough to indict, let alone convict anyone of a crime."

Backing up Lowry's Ferguson observations is this Washington Post article by Paul Cassell:

Perhaps the reason for this disinterest in the ballistics report, autopsies and other similar information is that for at least some of Brown’s supporters the facts are, apparently, largely irrelevant because Brown is a metaphorical “symbol” of injustice regardless of what actually happened. A related reason may be that working through this information is time-consuming — and thus beyond the capacity of many commentators. In contrast, the grand jury painstakingly heard sworn testimony from more than 60 witnesses, which is now collected in several thousand pages of transcripts. Reviewing these transcripts reveals some important and essentially indisputable facts. And those facts confirm many critical aspects of Wilson’s account.

...Based on my initial read, so far as I can see there are no significant inconsistencies between the physical evidence and Wilson’s grand jury testimony. Other reviews have likewise not identified readily-apparent examples of problems with Wilson’s testimony. For example, a review of the grand jury testimony by three Associated Press reporters noted numerous examples of witness statements inconsistent with the physical evidence, but offered no examples from Wilson’s testimony.

In the days and weeks ahead as we have the "conversations about race" that the liberals are requesting, the most notable part of these "conversations" will be the avoidance of discussing the evidence in the Ferguson case. If one should boldly inject it into the "conversation," an outrage such as we saw on Meet The Press can be expected.

Exit question: How much would the MTP ratings soar if panelists such as Rich Lowry were allowed to question the guests as was promised (but not fulfilled) by NBC News president Deborah Turness? Meanwhile MTP remains mired in third place with the Meet The Chuck format as Todd hogs all the interviews with the guests.

- See more at: newsbusters.org



To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 8:42:54 PM
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"Wilson Free, Black Cop Punished For Hitting A White?" is new issue..except victim was black...DOH!'
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A freeper's discovery ^ | 11/30/2014



A new arguement and outrage is emerging in Fergusen. While the white officer who shot Mike Brown goes free, another officer, a black man by the name of Dawon Gore, is currently in trouble for simply striking a white man with a batton. The problem is...his victim was black.

Internet meme's with the huge factual error like the one above are tweeted and retweeted or radicals will simply post inncorrect things like this on Twitter :





When you point out their error, many will ask for proof. For that we go to Officer Dawon Gore's own words:



“Officer Darren Wilson is White, I am a Black Officer. Wilson didn’t do a report, I also chose not to do a report. Both subjects were black males, Wilson’s subject had cigars but was unarmed and my subject was found not to be armed as well. Wilson drew a weapon (gun), and I drew my metal baton.”



One must ask the question... If these #ferguson radicals (or just common sappy liberals) can be so wrong on such a major part of a story....what else have they been wrong about? What other falsehoods (hands up/shot in back/etc) are they blindly retweeting?



To: combjelly who wrote (819882)11/30/2014 8:58:00 PM
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>> No one questioned this. Why?

Are you saying the Chief, who wasn't a party at ALL to the events of that day, should have been called to testify as to what would otherwise have been hearsay?

Who knows why the chief said what he said? Perhaps he just didn't know that detail, or he forgot, or he got confused or he just lied about it for some reason. None of that would be relevant, particularly given that Wilson's testimony coincided directly with the facts in the case.

Are you going to ask Wilson? "Mr. Wilson, what did the chief have to say at the news conferences while all this was going on?" Wilson: "How the fuck am I supposed to know?"

That is not a "huge hole," or a hole at all. It is no different from someone on CNN saying it. It just has nothing to do with the case, given that we know what the actual, documented time line is -- and we do -- and that it coincides with Wilson's testimony, which it does.

It is pretty much of similar relevance as pointing out that the Prosecutor in the case is a registered Democrat. While true, it just has no bearing, so why would you do it?