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To: dylan murphy who wrote (2686)	12/3/2014 1:03:55 PM
From: E'Lane	Respond to of 2981

cbs.com Interesting video from Wes' going to Ponderosa.

To: dylan murphy who wrote (2686)	12/3/2014 1:44:31 PM
From: E'Lane	2 Recommendations Recommended By dylan murphy Siber Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2981

Why do you think the outcomes in Survivor are what they are? Natalie's sister was obnoxious! :) It had nothing to do with race, imo. Natalie has earned a LOT of respect from me this season; I don't care what pigeon hole of humanity she is in. I wasn't expecting anything positive out of the twins. I've been pleasantly surprised. She doesn't use race or sexuality or anything else...she's playing Survivor and pushing herself to see her limits. I Was also pleased to watch a "Secret Scene" where Jon said how much he admired her for pushing thru last week's challenge even though she knew she was safe. He then said "that will play well for the jury". I'm not the only one impressed. Jeremy? He was a hoss! I would have voted him off first after a merge; just simply so he wouldn't kick my hiney at individual immunity challenges. I thought Jon wanted him off because he was going to "blow his cover" about having an idol. Never did they really explain that one; but I didn't see it as racist. Jeremy's wife?? I think, in her own words, she "tried too hard and bluffed too hard and got voted out". (Y'all really should watch some of the "day after" videos!! Both Ponderosa AND present day interview. A LOT of interesting things come out!) I don't think any of the votes (talking of this season) were based on race, myself. I personally think THE MAJORITY of people these days have gotten over the whole "different life/lifestyle" mentality?? Would sure hope so. (Please don't bring up what's on the news...that's not a "majority of people".) Having failed college statistics TWICE, I can't give the odds, but would think that with a minority of ANY kind, the odds could be against you. Female, male, African American, Caucasian American, Spanish, Asian, etc...matters not. I also would think that in a need to survive coming before the battle to win...most folks would want to get along and survive first...and race, gender, nationality, lifestyle, etc would be secondary. Starvation, deprivation, STORMS makes for strange bed fellows. :) Just an opinion that I probably shouldn't have tossed out there. Without a moderator on this board; perhaps we keep it to small talk concerning Survivor and not get ourselves into any big deep philosophical or insulting discussions? Of course, with most of the board yawning thru this season; something had to get us posting again, right? :)

To: dylan murphy who wrote (2686)	12/4/2014 10:39:42 AM
From: diana g	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2981

Dylan, You wrote: "...But to your question 'Do you suppose that people vote counter to their own perceived self-interest in order to hold back blacks? ' No, I don't think it's that as much as it may be they want to be around someone they feel more comfortable with. ..." ----- Yes, that is right. People prefer to be with and work with others who share their ways of thinking and doing things. This isn't an aspect of human nature that is only present in white people. People of all races generally distrust other people who they don't know and who are from other cultures or appear to possibly be from other cultures. This is just common sense. Distrusting strangers is common sense. The more you are similar to another person, the more easily that person can trust you. If I am shown photos of two people and asked "who would I trust?" and one picture is of Colin Powell and the other picture is some unknown white thuggish looking guy with a facial tattoo of a spider, who will I pick to trust? It isn't about race at all. It's about culture. Not race. ----- It was obvious to me that the people on 'Survivor' saw Jeremy as another player in the game and acted toward him just as they did other players. That is, they first made judgements based on appearance and afterward depended on what they knew from their experience with him to make judgements about what they could expect him to do. Clearly he was well-liked and the vote went against him for reasons completely unrelated to race. ----- There are people who make unfair judgements about other people. There are a small percentage of white people who are certain that all blacks are untrustworthy. There are some black people who despise all white people. Most people do the smart thing-- They judge others as individuals. Not as racial stereotypes. There are some people from all races who think that others are much more concerned with race than those others actually are. (Hint)