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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (61599)	12/4/2014 11:27:40 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86355

Sailing ships have come back? I think Greens should ban imports or exports from west coast ports on ships powered by anything other than sail power.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (61599)	12/4/2014 2:03:27 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86355

Exxon found similar when Bush the elder did the same after the Valdez. Corporations loot, and governments punish them when they break laws. After all, corporations are people. Maybe BP shouldn't have leased seafloor from Obama, if they weren't willing to comply with our laws. That's right. That's what I warned them in 1986 after they bought Sohio and became liable for stupendously vast damages awarded by judges and juries. I thought the Exxon Valdez accident would be a good warning to BP of the scale of damages likely if they made a mistake. Apparently it wasn't enough warning. BP spent heaps on HSE [health safety environment]. It was top priority. There were jamborees, but not in nice places like Cancun. Ours were in London and Rouen. I refused to fly from New Zealand to London for a week of jamboree as it would take days to get there and back, would cost a fortune and take me away from things I had to do in my job. Alan Revel, the managing director, told me I should have gone as it was important to be seen to do the right thing. I was able to get the proceedings in book form [they were bound and published in a series of books] and wasn't presenting anything so nobody would notice I wasn't there. See, I was an environmentalist back then. Keeping CO2 production down and saving the world's resources. I did drive to Rouen from Antwerp where I was based. I battled down the motorway in our little yellow Lada to get there. Also to Brussels for a meeting with the EU Environmental wallahs. Amusingly they nearly all smoked [unlike me] and wore glasses [unlike me]. They did not seem very environmentally sensitive, but they had cushy jobs. They wanted us to agree to a single European diesel specification. I explained why that was a bad idea. For a start, it would be environmentally bad. But it would also be economically stupid. It would also be bad for engines. I quite like the USA liability laws as it induces good behaviour and provides compensation where there's bad. In NZ, we have Accident Compensation Corporation which gives minimal compensation in the event of injury. There never was a class action suit over lead in gasoline, but there should have been. Spreading poison over the public and damaging their brains was an unreasonable thing to be doing. There was research by the early 1980s which showed the damage being done, which was about quarter of an IQ point which seems not much, but if you calculate earnings versus IQ, you'll see that the damage was large and far higher than any value from having the lead. In fact, the lead was actually harmful to the vehicles, not just people, as it clogged up the engine and oil, caused knock increase as it coated the piston heads and harmed exhaust pipes. You are geriatric enough to perhaps remember 'grey paint' around the valve area, and elsewhere. Mqurice