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To: combjelly who wrote (821258)12/7/2014 1:00:36 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1587267
 
Not to mention ignoring this guy, Lee Atwater:

en.wikipedia.org
Atwater on the Southern Strategy[ edit]As a member of the Reagan administration in 1981, Atwater gave an anonymous interview to political scientist Alexander P. Lamis. Part of the interview was printed in Lamis's book The Two-Party South, then reprinted in Southern Politics in the 1990s with Atwater's name revealed. Bob Herbert reported on the interview in the October 6, 2005, edition of the New York Times. On November 13, 2012, The Nation magazine released a 42-minute audio recording of the interview. [7] James Carter IV, grandson of former president Jimmy Carter, had asked and been granted access to these tapes by Lamis's widow. Atwater talked about the Republican Southern Strategy and Ronald Reagan's version of it:

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn't have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, " Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger." [8] [9]

Atwater also argued that Reagan did not need to make racial appeals, suggesting that Reagan's issues transcended the racial prism of the "Southern Strategy":

Atwater: But Reagan did not have to do a southern strategy for two reasons. Number one, race was not a dominant issue. And number two, the mainstream issues in this campaign had been, quote, southern issues since way back in the sixties. So Reagan goes out and campaigns on the issues of economics and of national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism, any kind of reference. And I'll tell you another thing you all need to think about, that even surprised me, is the lack of interest, really, the lack of knowledge right now in the South among white voters about the Voting Rights Act." [10]




To: combjelly who wrote (821258)12/7/2014 1:01:36 PM
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"A consciously falsified or distorted interpretation of the past to serve partisan or ideological purposes in the present".
That is precisely what you are trying to do here. It won't wash.
The Democrat party does the washing.



I had racist quotes from Democrats like Kennedy, Johnson, Al Gore Sr.

All of whom are dead. Have been for a long time.

Like I said (you left out) the list is huge-----some that are not dead
Toure, Jackson, Dyson, Brazile, Sharpton, Reid, don't forget both Clinton's.

I had a list of "firsts" from the Republican party regarding black Americans.

All of which were a long time ago.
Ya way back in history from Reagan to G.W. Bush.....That is a long time a ago.

Here we are, less than two years left on the nation’s first black president. It looks like race relations have gotten worse, not better.

Yeah. Racist whites are a lot more vocal than they were before. As far as I can see, the only reason for that is we have a black man in the White House.
Black racists need not apply.

I can't help but noticed that you completely ignored Nixon's Southern Strategy.
I can cut and paste too....

In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the NAACP for ignoring the black vote. [11] However, two days after his address to the NAACP he characterized this as a general strategy, not particularly Southern: "It always interests me when people say it was a Southern strategy. The fact is that folks in the North, the South, the East and the West sometimes did this."

All of which were a long time ago.