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To: Galirayo who wrote (5419)	12/17/1997 12:04:00 AM
From: ftth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9262

Hi Ray, have you found that A.T.'s and hammers are less predictive (or maybe reliable is a better word) in this market environment than they were, say, in May-August (especially AT's because they signify upward breakouts, which--if they do materialize--seem to fizzle out after a day or two lately)? I know I have, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making an erroneous conclusion. Also, the sheer number of AT's seems to be driven by a (fairly) market-wide pattern of multiple tests (and subsequent failures) of upward resistance levels (have to specify "upward" because it's also a short support level), followed by increasingly shallower pullbacks. Hammers off the lows of a pullback seem to work about as reliably as in an up market, but the upside potential from that point isn't as great as in an up market. Are you day trading these patterns currently? How's it been working out for you if you have??? dh

To: Galirayo who wrote (5419)	12/17/1997 10:12:00 PM
From: Galirayo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9262

[ A Triangles, Hammers, 8to10NPL ] Symbol Scan Close 50DMA PE RSI Date MFlow ACLY ,A Triangle , 22.750, 20.91, 99, 55, 12/17/1997, 693 AFFFZ ,A Triangle , 50.000, 46.40, 8, 70, 12/17/1997, 1076 AHPI ,A Triangle , 7.875, 7.85, -12, 48, 12/17/1997, -7966 ALBK ,A Triangle , 47.125, 44.99, 18, 54, 12/17/1997, -655 AMGN ,A Triangle , 53.562, 50.56, 23, 67, 12/17/1997, 266863 ASFC ,A Triangle , 58.125, 55.36, 20, 80, 12/17/1997, 9102 CELS ,A Triangle , 35.438, 35.02, 506, 55, 12/17/1997, -922 CENF ,A Triangle , 41.125, 39.78, 17, 53, 12/17/1997, -1526 CNDO ,A Triangle , 11.438, 11.49, 0, 50, 12/17/1997, -2944 EAGL ,A Triangle , 18.375, 17.96, 17, 69, 12/17/1997, 42973 ERTS ,A Triangle , 35.875, 34.95, 39, 59, 12/17/1997, 33105 FDLNA ,A Triangle , 8.531, 8.19, 25, 54, 12/17/1997, 3673 FFIC ,A Triangle , 23.500, 22.58, 22, 73, 12/17/1997, -1194 GELX ,A Triangle , 27.250, 28.26, -14, 44, 12/17/1997, 3003 IMRS ,A Triangle , 28.750, 27.14, 76, 60, 12/17/1997, -11984 INDQA ,A Triangle , 26.812, 26.17, 16, 68, 12/17/1997, 776 LNTV ,A Triangle , 54.000, 52.22, 24, 62, 12/17/1997, -47575 MAFB ,A Triangle , 34.125, 32.96, 18, 80, 12/17/1997, -98 MLBC ,A Triangle , 30.062, 28.77, 23, 62, 12/17/1997, 1222 MURXF ,A Triangle , 9.562, 9.20, 20, 55, 12/17/1997, 4527 NWAC ,A Triangle , 47.125, 43.98, 10, 68, 12/17/1997, -17001 RGIS ,A Triangle , 26.500, 24.66, 27, 77, 12/17/1997, 3548 RSCR ,A Triangle , 26.625, 24.84, 26, 80, 12/17/1997, 12208 RWAY ,A Triangle , 19.875, 18.09, 25, 74, 12/17/1997, 2370 SCAN ,A Triangle , 11.000, 10.77, 13, 82, 12/17/1997, -6248 SEIC ,A Triangle , 44.000, 42.18, 119, 70, 12/17/1997, 3584 SIAL ,A Triangle , 38.125, 35.91, 24, 67, 12/17/1997, 27582 SONC ,A Triangle , 28.000, 26.89, 20, 55, 12/17/1997, 1688 SPNSF ,A Triangle , 7.875, 8.12, 9, 53, 12/17/1997, -20723 STRX ,A Triangle , 34.500, 26.49, -82, 71, 12/17/1997, -777 TESC ,A Triangle , 4.312, 3.97, -10, 75, 12/17/1997, -6117 TSRI ,A Triangle , 15.375, 13.60, 47, 50, 12/17/1997, 5491 TUES ,A Triangle , 24.875, 24.12, 19, 50, 12/17/1997, 4331 VCAM ,A Triangle , 25.000, 23.75, 58, 64, 12/17/1997, 3541 VNTV ,A Triangle , 25.500, 25.20, -69, 57, 12/17/1997, 26183 WBST ,A Triangle , 64.500, 63.27, 27, 58, 12/17/1997, 2216 WWCA ,A Triangle , 18.688, 18.63, -5, 51, 12/17/1997, 123 AEHR ,8to10 NPL , 7.000, 12.13, 9, AIA ,8to10 NPL , 3.250, 3.30, 12, ARWM ,8to10 NPL , 5.750, 7.11, 14, AVC ,8to10 NPL , 8.000, 9.54, 10, AWII ,8to10 NPL , 5.750, 6.44, 11, BCU ,8to10 NPL , 8.188, 9.02, 15, BMRA ,8to10 NPL , 2.250, 2.27, 19, BMRQ ,8to10 NPL , 13.000, 19.56, 13, BOYD ,8to10 NPL , 8.000, 9.13, 15, BRLI ,8to10 NPL , 1.406, 1.59, 8, BRU ,8to10 NPL , 5.812, 7.24, 6, BSMT ,8to10 NPL , 4.750, 6.56, 17, CACH ,8to10 NPL , 2.938, 3.60, 12, CAIR ,8to10 NPL , 15.000, 21.07, 10, CBST ,8to10 NPL , 5.250, 6.84, 10, DJT ,8to10 NPL , 6.750, 8.83, 7, EFII ,8to10 NPL , 13.625, 45.67, 17, GEGP ,8to10 NPL , 1.781, 2.59, 15, GMD ,8to10 NPL , 0.625, 0.77, 0, HAHN ,8to10 NPL , 6.312, 6.21, 19, HFGI ,8to10 NPL , 12.500, 12.72, 19, HRLY ,8to10 NPL , 11.156, 13.32, 10, ICTG ,8to10 NPL , 4.000, 4.97, 14, IGTI ,8to10 NPL , 2.375, 3.47, 20, INFR ,8to10 NPL , 4.062, 5.53, 16, INTK ,8to10 NPL , 0.875, 0.90, 8, IWHM ,8to10 NPL , 3.250, 3.89, 12, JAX ,8to10 NPL , 4.500, 6.09, 4, JET ,8to10 NPL , 2.438, 1.27, 8, KPA ,8to10 NPL , 14.750, 16.28, 20, KPG ,8to10 NPL , 2.625, 6.55, 3, KPI ,8to10 NPL , 7.750, 9.21, 6, LIBHA ,8to10 NPL , 10.000, 10.02, 16, LKI ,8to10 NPL , 12.000, 14.86, 10, LOG ,8to10 NPL , 10.438, 14.00, 3, MMAN ,8to10 NPL , 10.500, 10.88, 13, MODM ,8to10 NPL , 2.625, 2.61, 12, MPH ,8to10 NPL , 4.500, 5.68, 5, MSB ,8to10 NPL , 3.688, 3.86, 9, MTXC ,8to10 NPL , 14.750, 15.62, 13, MWSI ,8to10 NPL , 2.125, 4.12, 9, NABC ,8to10 NPL , 2.062, 2.74, 2, NTEG ,8to10 NPL , 3.750, 4.83, 1, NVB ,8to10 NPL , 11.000, 15.63, 7, OPTK ,8to10 NPL , 3.250, 4.48, 11, OSU ,8to10 NPL , 10.500, 13.08, 11, PAUH ,8to10 NPL , 11.375, 21.01, 10, PLR A,8to10 NPL , 5.250, 5.57, 15, PLR B,8to10 NPL , 4.500, 4.37, 12, PMCP ,8to10 NPL , 5.375, 5.93, 11, PTEC ,8to10 NPL , 12.812, 15.43, 15, RNIC ,8to10 NPL , 4.375, 5.31, 12, SBIO ,8to10 NPL , 3.062, 3.45, 3, SFC ,8to10 NPL , 10.562, 12.95, 4, SHN ,8to10 NPL , 3.188, 4.41, 12, SOLR ,8to10 NPL , 2.375, 2.38, 10, STTX ,8to10 NPL , 10.000, 11.53, 14, TRDT ,8to10 NPL , 11.875, 14.62, 6, TRID ,8to10 NPL , 9.375, 12.31, 9, TRU ,8to10 NPL , 5.688, 7.66, 3, TWIN ,8to10 NPL , 14.250, 14.12, 20, UFRM ,8to10 NPL , 11.250, 11.63, 18, UFX ,8to10 NPL , 6.000, 6.49, 16, USEY ,8to10 NPL , 2.375, 3.08, 16, XICO ,8to10 NPL , 3.312, 5.26, 8, XLTC ,8to10 NPL , 10.375, 13.14, 15, ZING ,8to10 NPL , 8.875, 9.34, 11, AASIZ , B Inv Hmr , 0.250, 0.52, 0, 36, 12/17/1997, -5538 ABFI , B Hammer , 23.000, 24.77, 9, 39, 12/17/1997, 468 ACCUF , B Inv Hmr , 0.562, 0.72, -3, 42, 12/17/1997, -2064 ACEP , B Hammer , 2.188, 2.96, 44, 30, 12/17/1997, -2702 AEHR , W Hammer , 7.000, 12.13, 9, 30, 12/17/1997, 6620 ALOT , W Hammer , 8.625, 8.51, 23, 60, 12/17/1997, 960 AMEN , B Inv Hmr , 2.250, 3.33, -1, 27, 12/17/1997, 942 APTX , W Hammer , 0.750, 1.03, -3, 48, 12/17/1997, -458 ATEA , W Inv Hmr , 1.812, 2.38, -1, 25, 12/17/1997, -3543 ATMI , B Inv Hmr , 22.500, 32.29, 38, 17, 12/17/1997, -10070 BEAN , W Inv Hmr , 1.156, 1.45, -1, 45, 12/17/1997, -5361 BIME , W Inv Hmr , 0.594, 2.78, 0, 24, 12/17/1997, -6666 BOLD , B Inv Hmr , 9.062, 11.77, -11, 16, 12/17/1997, -1101 BOTX , W Hammer , 5.625, 6.14, 5, 50, 12/17/1997, -358 CALP , W Inv Hmr , 1.375, 2.03, -1, 38, 12/17/1997, 2377 CAND , B Hammer , 5.938, 6.58, 14, 21, 12/17/1997, 14707 CICI , W Inv Hmr , 1.281, 1.69, -6, 40, 12/17/1997, -2443 CMYN , B Hammer , 2.000, 4.50, -2, 10, 12/17/1997, -4785 CNLG , W Hammer , 3.000, 3.62, -7, 42, 12/17/1997, -450 CRNR , B Inv Hmr , 5.500, 5.30, 18, 62, 12/17/1997, -11687 CTSC , B Inv Hmr , 2.000, 3.91, -11, 30, 12/17/1997, -12572 CTSI , B Hammer , 5.500, 6.87, -4, 42, 12/17/1997, 14675 DIYS , B Inv Hmr , 6.000, 6.19, 0, 49, 12/17/1997, 515 DTAM , B Inv Hmr , 2.938, 3.69, 0, 59, 12/17/1997, 1882 DTMC , B Inv Hmr , 1.625, 2.76, -3, 19, 12/17/1997, -2278 DVIDZ , W Inv Hmr , 0.219, 0.49, 0, 33, 12/17/1997, -6003 DWCH , B Inv Hmr , 2.344, 3.06, -11, 38, 12/17/1997, 1196 EECN , B Inv Hmr , 2.250, 2.64, -2, 45, 12/17/1997, 468 EFCW , B Inv Hmr , 0.906, 2.10, 0, 7, 12/17/1997, -1061 ELGT , B Hammer , 1.656, 1.42, 2, 59, 12/17/1997, -1241 ELSI , W Inv Hmr , 2.562, 5.60, -1, 2, 12/17/1997, -3473 EUPH , W Inv Hmr , 1.094, 1.64, -3, 19, 12/17/1997, -1833 FDIR , B Inv Hmr , 0.719, 0.63, -4, 50, 12/17/1997, -347 FLSC , B Inv Hmr , 6.750, 9.80, 61, 34, 12/17/1997, -384 FNBC , B Hammer , 21.625, 16.03, 26, 69, 12/17/1997, 1345 FTG , B Inv Hmr , 1.875, 2.29, -3, 47, 12/17/1997, -62 FUELW , W Inv Hmr , 1.750, 0.82, 0, 86, 12/17/1997, 1550 GLBL , W Inv Hmr , 15.812, 18.59, 32, 49, 12/17/1997, -25960 GMSTF , W Inv Hmr , 23.375, 22.69, 0, 48, 12/17/1997, -3900 HCOM , W Inv Hmr , 10.500, 6.21, -6, 64, 12/17/1997, 6292 HNWC , W Hammer , 2.375, 2.98, -3, 29, 12/17/1997, 386 ICIQ , B Inv Hmr , 8.000, 10.15, 17, 35, 12/17/1997, -3146 IGCA , B Hammer , 2.125, 3.80, -3, 20, 12/17/1997, -5597 IGTI , B Inv Hmr , 2.375, 3.47, 20, 46, 12/17/1997, -985 IK , W Hammer , 4.312, 5.39, 3, 31, 12/17/1997, 22871 ILT , B Hammer , 2.688, 3.85, -7, 37, 12/17/1997, -880 IMII , B Inv Hmr , 3.500, 4.17, -3, 25, 12/17/1997, 508 IVAC , W Inv Hmr , 9.250, 11.31, 10, 42, 12/17/1997, -14900 IZZI , B Hammer , 1.062, 1.60, -10, 32, 12/17/1997, -506 JET , B Hammer , 2.438, 1.27, 8, 81, 12/17/1997, -390 JLHC , B Hammer , 0.938, 1.40, -1, 29, 12/17/1997, -255 JSI , B Inv Hmr , 1.500, 2.86, -1, 0, 12/17/1997, -7976 KILN , W Inv Hmr , 14.250, 10.79, 17, 68, 12/17/1997, -685 LCCI , W Hammer , 15.875, 20.07, -15, 6, 12/17/1997, -256 LEXIW , W Inv Hmr , 0.688, 0.93, 0, 36, 12/17/1997, 1514 LFCO , B Inv Hmr , 12.812, 17.16, 4, 36, 12/17/1997, 985 LMTS , B Hammer , 3.750, 3.69, -3, 33, 12/17/1997, 7381 LPWR , W Hammer , 6.625, 8.02, 44, 31, 12/17/1997, -1098 LSKI , W Inv Hmr , 0.750, 1.03, 0, 45, 12/17/1997, -3816 LUCY , B Hammer , 1.406, 1.52, -2, 45, 12/17/1997, 1630 MAXS , B Inv Hmr , 13.375, 14.01, 13, 47, 12/17/1997, 997 MCRN , B Inv Hmr , 1.969, 2.24, -3, 44, 12/17/1997, 8930 NEOG , B Inv Hmr , 10.750, 11.57, 32, 44, 12/17/1997, -936 NORPF , W Inv Hmr , 2.781, 3.84, 93, 38, 12/17/1997, 471 NTSC , W Inv Hmr , 6.875, 7.87, 21, 21, 12/17/1997, -2541 OLSAY , B Inv Hmr , 3.188, 5.01, 0, 26, 12/17/1997, -1126 PARL , B Inv Hmr , 1.812, 1.86, -8, 38, 12/17/1997, -1891 PERLF , B Inv Hmr , 1.594, 1.73, 9, 47, 12/17/1997, 514 PHOC , B Inv Hmr , 2.688, 2.69, -3, 47, 12/17/1997, -462 PPAR , B Inv Hmr , 1.000, 1.33, -4, 25, 12/17/1997, -818 PPOD , W Inv Hmr , 6.375, 9.39, -7, 30, 12/17/1997, -7776 PRDM , W Inv Hmr , 0.562, 0.89, 0, 47, 12/17/1997, -27480 PVATW , B Hammer , 1.594, 2.27, 0, 25, 12/17/1997, -2543 QDEL , W Hammer , 3.500, 3.99, 29, 34, 12/17/1997, -3691 QIXXF , W Inv Hmr , 0.219, 0.32, -1, 43, 12/17/1997, -11611 RACO , W Hammer , 1.625, 1.47, -4, 76, 12/17/1997, 25845 RDOC , W Inv Hmr , 4.875, 7.08, -4, 23, 12/17/1997, -300 RIDE , W Inv Hmr , 1.812, 2.60, -2, 16, 12/17/1997, -8288 SILCF , B Hammer , 4.125, 5.17, 15, 35, 12/17/1997, -284 SNDK , W Inv Hmr , 20.375, 27.22, 30, 30, 12/17/1997, -53058 STFF , B Hammer , 18.062, 22.22, 18, 4, 12/17/1997, -1152 SWSHW , B Inv Hmr , 2.000, 1.80, 0, 46, 12/17/1997, -6502 TCCO , B Hammer , 6.750, 8.20, -7, 37, 12/17/1997, 224 TCEL , W Inv Hmr , 1.812, 2.33, -3, 20, 12/17/1997, -13037 TCTV , B Hammer , 2.000, 2.89, -3, 47, 12/17/1997, -811 TEA , W Inv Hmr , 13.250, 13.19, 0, 67, 12/17/1997, -1303 TFCE , B Inv Hmr , 1.062, 1.39, -2, 36, 12/17/1997, -886 TGAL , B Inv Hmr , 4.438, 7.62, -34, 8, 12/17/1997, -2473 THQI , W Inv Hmr , 20.062, 17.36, 30, 60, 12/17/1997, 29191 TLCM , W Inv Hmr , 7.188, 9.45, -29, 38, 12/17/1997, 15260 TMAI , B Inv Hmr , 9.375, 14.49, 94, 7, 12/17/1997, 1556 TTRIF , B Hammer , 1.656, 2.07, -4, 30, 12/17/1997, 4876 USEG , W Hammer , 8.875, 10.14, -16, 32, 12/17/1997, -4120 VCSI , W Inv Hmr , 2.938, 3.38, -10, 29, 12/17/1997, 9073 VDAT , B Hammer , 3.000, 4.15, -2, 39, 12/17/1997, 904 VENGF , B Hammer , 0.812, 1.13, -1, 41, 12/17/1997, 1474 VICR , W Inv Hmr , 27.125, 29.26, 46, 45, 12/17/1997, 3621 VUTK , W Hammer , 5.188, 6.77, -6, 22, 12/17/1997, -38 WGEN , W Hammer , 1.625, 1.60, -12, 48, 12/17/1997, -1142 XETA , W Inv Hmr , 19.562, 20.31, 22, 43, 12/17/1997, -1741 XSYS , W Inv Hmr , 0.688, 1.07, -1, 37, 12/17/1997, -7663 ZIGO , W Inv Hmr , 16.625, 24.28, 14, 13, 12/17/1997, -2484