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To: one_less who wrote (821956)12/11/2014 8:55:20 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583501
 
>> The only question that should be up in the air at this point is whether or not waterboarding as used by the CIA rises to the level that can be defined as torture. It was argued during the Bush admin and the conclusion drawn was that it does not. So the label "enhanced interrogation" was concluded to be a step below interrogation

The attorney who did this legal research, now a professor at Berkeley, appeared on the O'Reilly program last night. It was a really good interview, imo.

He pointed out that of the techniques, waterboarding was the closest call. It was really pushing the limits of what was/was not called "torture". But at the end of the day, there was no lasting physical harm involved, and strict limits were imposed to prevent it from crossing the line.

He pointed out that at the time, the CIA was scrambling to find out anything it could -- there were credible threats against the United States, everyone in the intelligence community -- including the congressional committees, knew what was going on and believed it was necessary to protect Americans.

It is so easy to second-guess people's actions and motivations 10 or 15 years down the road when the urgency of the threats is evaporated.



To: one_less who wrote (821956)12/11/2014 10:32:08 AM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 1583501
 
There was and still is a lot more than water boarding.

The Bush admin knew it and so does the Obama admin as well as Congress.

The intent of the framers was "cruel and unusual". Couldn't be clearer. Even the Nazis had a trial.