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To: carranza2 who wrote (108958)	12/15/2014 7:07:48 AM
From: THE ANT	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 218428

It would be complicated to hold up the price of oil in the US but I look at this as Warren Mosler moslereconomics.com does, the Saudis are knocking out competition and in 5 years prices will increase with a vengeance In regards to interest rates I think the Fed, out of luck, got it right and dropped interest rates prior to the market crashing low enough to drive them down to the same level.I think an interest rate of zero will be too high shortly. When a debt based economy reaches debt to GDP of these levels you can only get inflation after wiping out the debt, and if that happened there would no longer be any need to inflate. At this point to cause inflation it would take massive government spending-running a huge deficit-and this would cause an implosion of bond prices and deflation. Now what if the government owned all the debt of the country prior to starting huge deficit spending? Not sure but I don't expect this. I think we eventually get deflation making real rates positive and go down Japans route. Remember we are just giving up growth that was never ours in the first place.If we can stretch thing out enough, the growth in productivity can counter act the fall in GDP from de leveraging. Low GDP as far as the eye can see and low asset value growth too

To: carranza2 who wrote (108958)	12/15/2014 4:47:04 PM
From: TobagoJack	2 Recommendations Recommended By 2MAR$ dvdw© Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218428

w/r to oil i think it takes enough months (3+ at least) for the full effect of the near-toxic breaking of oil price drop to trickle through full spectrum of unintended consequences, and only after that would the market ‘correct’ higher in the mean time, we must wallow in cheap and cheaper oil good for some economies and bad for others degree of good, less-good, bad, worse, and worst may have something to do with leverage w/i the system and how close that leverage is to the local carbon energy industry should what happened in mining space take full equivalent affect in oil arena oh whoa moment congressional hearings bailouts socializing losses per central planning protocol etc etc