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To: combjelly who wrote (822998)	12/16/2014 1:20:14 PM
From: i-node	2 Recommendations Recommended By steve harris Tenchusatsu Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578594

>> No, that wasn't the selling point. Lies don't make your point stronger. The primary selling point was that 32 million people who had no "coverage" (16M insured, 16M Medicaid) would get coverage. 16M would be through Medicaid, meaning 100% taxpayer funded, and 16M through insurance "exchanges" and other means. What no one knew was that second category would be substantially taxpayer funded (with 80% qualifying to "subsidies".) Of course, it didn't work out that way. The drop in the number of people who didn't have coverage has amounted, thus far, to just over one percentage point vs. 2008, or 3 million. And all of those are essentially on the government dole for part or all of it. The idea was that all this could be done cost effectively and therefore the cost would be covered primarily by "savings" -- which turned out to be rather massive increased in capital gains tax as 20-something other taxes, as well as the taxpayers taking over the trillion dollar student loan program, thereby generating interest income off student loans. Then, of course, there are penalty taxes and other features in a futile effort to cover the cost increases. It was all a big fat lie. And they have, as predicted, wrecked our health care system in the process. We're seeing reductions in quality of care as well as access. Those Medicaids in many, perhaps most, locations cannot find providers to see them. The result has been an influx of people into emergency departments who have unlimited benefits under taxpayer funded Medicaid because doctors won't see them. "Train Wreck" doesn't begin to cover it. "Crush Collision" doesn't begin to cover it. It is a health care disaster for Americans and most of them don't even know it yet. (BTW, my own insurance has gone up from a mere 12K/year to over 20K/year in the last year, so even those who have tried to avoid Obamacare haven't been successful). The big item that is still hanging out there is Medicare, which is so severely ripping providers that they're going to walk away from it or turn treatment over to midlevels (now called "physician extenders" by the government).

To: combjelly who wrote (822998)	12/16/2014 3:23:30 PM
From: steve harris	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 joseffy Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578594

I don't have to make anything up when the truth is still in the 2009 archives on this thread. Maybe y'all could run to an SI administrator and have those posts removed, they really make you all look like fools, I mean grubers. Use the IRS excuse, a "hard drive crash" lost all of the 2009 "Obamacare for the 40 million uninsured" posts....