To: combjelly who wrote (826431 ) 12/28/2014 8:32:15 PM From: i-node Respond to of 1583406 >> Nonsense. One word, Minitel. Now there are a lot of reasons why it lost out to the Internet, not the least of which is it was French, but it was successful and had a 30 year run. I'm really not sure how you think it makes your case. There were lots of successful online services prior to the Internet in the US as well -- AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve come to mind. But they died the instant Netscape appeared on the market (although their corpses are still around today). >> There are a lot of costs counted in that figure that aren't directly involved in the web site I wasn't referring to the website, which was a million dollar item at most. I was including the cost of back-end systems, some of which are still not working. >> But the failure had nothing to do with it being a government project. Had everything to do with it. >> It had a lot to do with the contractors having no experience in web applications. And WHO DO YOU THINK HIRED THEM? Shit. >> Kleinrock is credited with creating the mathematical basis for packet-switching back in the early 1960s. Try actually knowing something about the fields that you are expressing opinions about. It makes you look less like a fool. Okay, well, other people were actually doing it at that time. Perhaps if you read up a little. Look, I'll give you respect for knowing about marine biology or whatever it is (even overlooking that blunder about salt in Puget Sound). But you don't know shit about systems engineering. >> The Internet. Smart weapons. Just to name two. These weren't exactly what I meant by "large scale government programs" -- I was referring to something on the order of Medicare/Medicaid. We've argued the Internet long enough, and I do believe the US has led the world in the development of smart weapons -- although those concepts began during WWII.