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To: Follies who wrote (109571)	1/8/2015 8:14:50 AM
From: elmatador	1 Recommendation Recommended By 3bar Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219928

That is your personal opinion and you are entitled to it. Without any substantiation it is just that: Your personal opinion. Calculus discovered English and a German Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz, independently Numbers Hndu and Arabs. Gun powder invented by the alchemists and then by the Chinese of Tang Dynasty, It’s hard to credit a single person with inventing the automobile. Not only did an estimated 100,000 patents lead to cars as we know them, but people also disagree on what qualifies as the first true automobile. For historians who think that early steam-powered road vehicles fit the bill, the answer is Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot, a French military engineer who in 1769 built a steam-powered tricycle for hauling artillery. The vehicle’s single front wheel performed both steering and driving functions, and it could travel at 2.25 miles per hour with four passengers aboard for about 15 minutes. At that point Cugnot’s fardier à vapeur, as it was known, would need to rest in order to recuperate enough power to move again. Although ideal for trains, early steam engines added so much weight that they proved inefficient for vehicles traveling on regular roads rather than on rails. (Cugnot’s second model weighed 8,000 pounds and had a tendency to tip forward when it wasn’t hauling heavy artillery behind it.) As a result, some observers argue that the first true automobile was gasoline-powered. They point to not one but two inventors: Karl Friedrich Benz and Gottlieb Daimler. The two men, who had never met previously, filed their patents on the same day—January 29, 1886—in two different German cities. Benz’s three-wheeled vehicle, which he first drove in 1885, was the first to combine an internal combustion engine with an integrated chassis, while Daimler’s motorized carriage (invented with his collaborator, Wilhelm Maybach) was the world’s first four-wheeled automobile and featured the first high-speech gasoline engine.

To: Follies who wrote (109571)	1/8/2015 8:42:11 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 219928

The important are the guys who assembled the package when all technologies are available irrespective of where they come from. The guy who invent the industry. Thus Henry Ford and Thomas Edison are the fathers of automobile and the electricity. Once you invent and industry, it is very hard for other to get big on that industry. You need a paradigm shift to get big. Like high cost car fuel destroyed the big 3 and the Japanese took over from there. Always remembering that what Isaac Newton said: if he saw far is because they stood on the shoulders of giants. Let me give you an example of standing on shoulders of giants. Do a Google to see the emblem on the sails of Columbus ships. Then do a Google on the emblem of the Templars, why is the Emblem of the Templars doing on the sailsl of Columbus ships? When the Portuguese king Dom Manuel created the Naval school of Sagres, it was a great coup. Let’s not kill the Templars (as they were exterminated in the rest of Europe) in exchange to getting their knowledge. Result? The Age of discoveries. Again standing on the shoulders of all the ones that provided the knowledge amassed by the Templars. The emblem on the Portuguese and Spanish ships was a tribute to the Templars that gave their knowledge to the school of navigation…