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To: combjelly who wrote (830123)	1/15/2015 1:17:26 PM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Respond to of 1576110

How would Weiner boy know? I was alive in the 50's and kids in grade school called cigarettes coffin nails.

To: combjelly who wrote (830123)	1/15/2015 1:28:36 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Respond to of 1576110

>> Right. Were you ever a supporter of big tobacco? They used to make similar arguments back in the day that use of tobacco and cancer were not linked... But there was plenty of other proof at the time. What they did was to cover up the data that were available. Statistically, it is necessary to eliminate covariant factors and reasonable alternative causes, and this has not been done (it is also a key failure of many of the so-called "climate scientists"). As I pointed out to you previously, having a gun around correlates well with gun deaths but you cannot infer from that that having a gun around causes deaths. It may be that people who have a gun around are more apt to be involved in activities where they are more likely to get shot (e.g., drug-dealing or gang activity). In these instances, possessing a gun does not increase the likelihood of gun death; possessing a gun may merely be another symptom with the same cause. And removing guns from those homes, as a result, may not improve the picture at all (and may actually have the opposite effect). The key is to get guns out of the hands of dope dealers and gang members. Unless and until you can figure out a way to do that, or find a different mitigation (like families that raise people to respect other peoples' lives), it is going to pretty difficult to improve the gun death statistics.