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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (6577)	12/17/1997 4:42:00 PM
From: Raymond	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Maurice! Ira Brodsky is wrong on this one.He mentioned in his last post that ITU will aaprove a family of standards.That is truth ITU is the standard body for the world.This vote is in ETSI that is Europe.All European countrys will follow the result in ETSI.It will not be a lot of 3g standards in Europe .It will only be one.I don't see the problem to have a standardbody decide which standard to use.Thats the reason for the GSM:s success all around the world.One standard gave the volume to get down the prices.In other areas of telecommunications here in US everything is standardised.For example to signal between 2 exchanges SS7 is standardised.Without a standard there would be much less competition.If think the only people that think that this vote in ETSI is not important is on this and the Frezza thread. Why do you think that all this companys are lobbying so hard for their standards.Do you think it's just for fun.The reason is that they know that the result of the vote is very important.It looks like people on Wall street is bying it also. Ericsson and Nokia up today.I agree on you on one point.One of the reason not to use IS-95 can be the IPR issue.But that doesn't help QCOM does it? /R

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (6577)	12/17/1997 6:56:00 PM
From: qdog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

You know there are some issues about 3g that are easily overlooked that the Swedes are glazing over. That is the issue of a connection say video that has to be met at stationary, walking and moving in a vehicle. (Actually the video will be at a greatly reduced B/W in a vehicle). Ericsson nor Nokia haven't demostrated a system of any kind. The beauty here is Ericsson doesn't own this standard!! So who will be able to move more rapidly on it? LU, MOT, NT, QCOM!!! But as the Siemens article demo, this was a poll; not a binding vote. You can bet your ass if the issue of making the next gen backward compatible with all standards, Ericsson won't win. But then they have a reason to be doing this; protect GSM.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (6577)	12/17/1997 10:53:00 PM
From: bdog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

For what its worth I've independently heard the same thing suggested by Maurice, viz., that Erickson has been unable to make WCDMA work and wants to pay Q the same licence and royalty fees negotated by earlier customer providers, e.g., Motorola. Q has so far refused (partly because of Erickson's stance when Q needed them).