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To: Brumar89 who wrote (65195)	1/27/2015 11:44:11 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 69300

"This thread is actually all about the attacking and the defense of Christianity .." Nonsense. You're not being honest! You are here to attack the credibility, the facts, the Truth of Science--most particularly the validity of Evolutionary Science. The fact that there is no legitimate debate or confusion about the essential truth of the fossil record and the biological evidences of Common Descent does not deter you or invoke any common decency or fairness from you. You continue to rant, rave, and insult the sensibilities and the character of people who are only defending Reason, Rationality, Science---and the rights of their children to receive a decent education--free from superstitious nonsense. Does the absurdity, immorality, and primitive character of Scripture get exposed on this thread? You bet it does! And as long as you are here pretending that your self-centered, self-serving, Chosen People crap deserves to overturn our Science and corrupt our schools, where our kids are TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION...then your insulting bullshit and your enmity and antagonism towards atheists, agnostics, secularists, humanists--and even ALL people of faith, not in your particular elite sect--will be exposed and thrown right back at you! You can bawl all you want! I DON'T CARE! You are attacking the reasoned essence of civilization, and America cannot afford to descend into a Fundy Cave of Dark Ages in this critical phase of the battle (as it were) between good and evil. You are not in your church. You are in a public forum spouting nonsense and lies against other MEMBERS. You have no immunity or privilege here. If you don't like your Superstitious Fundy "ideas" being examined and criticised--TOO DAMN BAD!!

To: Brumar89 who wrote (65195)	1/27/2015 2:07:41 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 69300

This thread is actually all about the attacking and the defense of Christianity.....Nonsense, this thread is about gathering data & facts for germinating greater understanding of the true nature of things, ourselves, albeit that interconnectedness (and unity) in the web of life we inhabit. Not positing imaginary worlds or living with illusionary fables of some afterlife which we see now as only a slight variation on themes descended from more ancient superstitiions like the Babylonians, Caananite, Phonecians & Egyptians etc ISRA'EL...lets take a look at the etymology of this god-myth from these near eastern tribes, try & open your eyes. "The scientific etymology of Israel is uncertain, a good guess being '[The God] El rules.'" [5] Jacob's descendants came to be known as the Israelites, eventually forming the tribes of Israel and ultimately the kingdom of Israel, whence came the name of modern day Israel.. EL (deity) en.wikipedia.org El, seated on a throne with lion feet, wears conical horned headdress, a tunic and mantle. He receives gifts from a priest or king or lesser deity. The winged globe is above them in the background. Stele found in Palestine.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (65195)	1/28/2015 3:54:13 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 69300

cais-soas.com CHRISTIANITY AS A MITHRAIC CULT In addition, Christianity adopted these doctrines from Zoroastrianism: baptism, communion - the haoma ceremony, guardian angels, the heavenly journey of the soul, worship on Sunday, the celebration of Mithras' birthday on December 25th, celibate priests that mediate between man and God, the Trinity, Zvarnah - the idea that emanations from the sun are collected in the head and radiate in the form of nimbus and rays, and asha-arta, "the true prayer". Centuries later in Greece this became Logos or "true sentence" and like in Persia it was associated with fire. Mithraism is widely considered to be a syncretistic religion, that is: a combination of Persian, Babylonian and Greek influences. However, the Greek influence seems to be limited to the identification in Greece of Mithras with the Greek god Perseus. The Babylonian influence seems to have been limited to astrology. Perhaps, though, the Persian interest in astrology has been overlooked. Zoroastrians worshipped at alters on hills and had a whole class of professional Magi or priests who had lots of time on their hands to do astrological research. Rather than a syncretistic religion, it would be more proper to call Mithraism a Zoroastrian subcult. The center of the Mithric cult was in Tarsus in Cilicia, Southeast Turkey. This is whence Paul, the founder of the Christian church, came from as a young man. Paul's insight on the road to Damascus was that instead of treating Jesus as a false savior, he could be identified as the true savior if combined with the new idea of "the second coming". That would cure the embarrassing fact that nothing had come of Jesus' time on earth. The rest was simple, Paul identified Jesus with Mithras and taught a modified Mithraism. That got Paul branded as a heretic by the true church and James the brother of Jesus. Eventually it cost Paul his life. However, the Mithric ideas were so generally attractive that they eventually won out. SOME REFERENCES Peake's Commentary on the Bible, Matthew Black and H.H. Rowley, ed., Revised edition, NY:Nelson 1982, section 607. Encyclopedia America, Danbury, CT, 1988, vol 29, pp. 813-815, article by J. Duchesne-Guillemin. Zarathustra, Philo, The Achaemenids and Israel, Lawrence Mills, Leipzig, 1903. Lawrence Mills was the brilliant American professor at Cambridge who not only translated much of the Avesta but published several books, including Our Own Religion in Ancient Persia, Chicago 1913, giving comprehensive examples of Persian words and ideas in the Bible. They have been reprinted. The Mysteries of Mithra, Franz Cumont, Chicago, 1903, also in Dover Books reprint.