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To: Alighieri who wrote (833275)	1/29/2015 5:52:32 PM
From: i-node	3 Recommendations Recommended By locogringo PKRBKR TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577124

>> Yeah, except that we were talking about having sympathy for folks who choose to forego insurance and the effect that risk has on the rest of us....not whether ACA increases or decreases ER visits or costs. But the facts are, and always were, that this was never an issue. At all. When a leftwinger rolls out this excuse, you know he's just citing Obama talking points. And I hear it constantly from my liberal friends. About how getting people on the government dole somehow saves money. The lunacy of it is that uncompensated care, which includes just ordinary insured people who didn't pay their 20% and/or deductibles, NEVER came close to costing what the ACA does. And never will. This was typical of the Obamacare propaganda machine of 2009 (which included Elizabeth Warren's bogus "Harvard Study as well as other out-and-out lies, like the bullshit that ACA would save money, result in better health care, and of course, the Liar of the Year's Lie of the Year, that if you like your doctor or your insurance, you could keep it). Lies, lies, and more lies. But the end does justify the means, right?

To: Alighieri who wrote (833275)	1/30/2015 1:13:51 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Recommended By i-node Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577124

Al, Yeah, except that we were talking about having sympathy for folks who choose to forego insurance and the effect that risk has on the rest of us....not whether ACA increases or decreases ER visits or costs. IOW, you just changed the subject. You still haven't explained how those who choose to forego insurance affects the rest of us. Maybe you're thinking it's like those who choose not to vaccinate their kids. I have no sympathy for them. But I fail to see how those who forego insurance affect me. Tenchusatsu