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To: Greg or e who wrote (65360)

2/4/2015 4:02:23 AM

From: Solon

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"I have never known of a "supernatural revelation" that had any evidence to support it."

That's not what you said previously. Are you lying now or were you lying
then????

I am not lying, and I did not lie in the link you posted. The "supernatural revelation" I mentioned had no evidence to support it. The fact that it was true indicates (to me) either coincidence, trickery, or fortuitous conclusions flowing from unconscious information. I am aware of no evidence to support a diagnosis based on a vision.

I will give another example to make this clear to you, as I know you are quite confused about what is meant by "evidence".

A person my wife and I know is very involved in "psychic" healing. This person had an (apparently) cancerous growth on her face which resisted all her "alternative" treatment methods. Eventually, she spent a considerable sum to travel to a healer. I can attest that the growth was gone within about 4 months after her return. Was this evidence for a supernatural healing? No. The reason for the healing is unknown. But unknown does not equate to supernatural. It may well be that certain people (or all people) have latent healing powers not yet adequately defined by Science. But this is not evidence of the supernatural. Skydiving would appear supernatural to primitive man. However, we know it is naturally allowed by the laws of physics.

Don't mistake the awe that Einstein had for the mysteries of the unknown with any belief in "revelation". All free thinkers with any imagination find the universe and the life in it to be full of wonder and awe. There is magic in our ignorance simply because the incomprehensible has always a magical character.

I have sat at table with great magicians and witnessed "magical" events that I could not rationally compute--even with a fairly adequate knowledge of magic and magicians. Did I consider them supernatural beings? Not at all. Was I mystified and awe-struck? You bet I was.

"As for your friend that is into "psychic healing" I wonder if you mock, deride
and scoff at her faith to her face, the way you do to Christians?"

Why do you change "a person my wife and I know" into "your friend"?? Just wondering. Are you always that dishonest? Is it a full-time job for you to alter and manipulate and misrepresent, until the original statements have disappeared under a mountain of lies and evasions?? You're quite a piece of work, Gregoree!

And no...I never scoff at anybody's faith unless they are in my face and trying to diminish the sacredness and the sanctity of the world I live in and the values I hold to be dear. If you were not on this thread ESPOUSING YOUR BIGOTRY and attacking atheists and other minorities...I would have no reason to know you or ever to talk to you. But as long as you are here deriding Science and preaching the teaching of fable in our classrooms and otherwise pissing on the values of decent, educated human beings--then yes...your "opinions" will be reasonably addressed and your bigotry will be OUTED!

You don't like having your "ideas" scoffed at?? Then get some ideas that are defensible--and not merely absurd, preposterous, and wacky. Most people, when they read a book about talking animals, see a light come on inside their head to indicate that they are reading a story.