To: Alighieri who wrote (836310 ) 2/13/2015 11:29:24 AM From: i-node Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575815 >> Dude...the technologies that enable these innovations almost ALWAYS come from progressive regions and initiatives... There is a big difference between "regions" and "initiatives" and you can't just throw them in a sentence together and make them similar. There is no end to this argument but at the end of the day it is ready access to capital that causes innovation. I do not believe an argument can be made that liberals are particularly supportive of capitalistic endeavor. >> you guys almost ALWAYS stand on the sidelines opposing initiatives like CAFE standards, CAFE standards are a largely liberal cause, perhaps, but I don't find them to be a great driver of innovation. >> rebelling at the notion of smaller cars, public transportation, calling government intervention intrusive... Of course. Government intervention is, by definition, intrusive -- it is a question only of how much. And it is generally counterproductive when it comes to innovation. Smaller cars are a matter of liberty. I don't want smaller cars. Fuck anyone who says I should be forced to have them. I would point you to the Russian automotive model, where cars are made of heavy steel, every model is available in special designs for one-footed, two-footed, no-footed drivers, but they are consistently pieces of shit. I would also point to the aforementioned hydrogen fuel cell, which is anything but a liberal initiative. >> every time you see a Prius next to a dually you can immediately tell who is driving which.... You can definitely tell who's driving the Prius. The SMUG is all over the place:youtube.com >> hell, you can't even shut up about efficient light bulbs... I haven't said anything about the light bulb situation in years. However, that was a counterproductive action. The very word "conservative" should tell you where yous side stands... Elon Musk is far closer to me politically than he is to you.