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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 10:36:18 AM
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When have I said I did? I don't like any such guarantees.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 10:57:06 AM
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“The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change….There will be more police cars….[since] you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.”

Dr. James Hansen, 1988, in an interview with author Rob Reiss.
Reiss asked how the greenhouse effect was likely to affect the neighborhood below Hansen’s office in NYC in the next 20 years.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 10:57:40 AM
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1990 Actress Meryl Streep “By the year 2000 – that’s less than ten years away–earth’s climate will be warmer than it’s been in over 100,000 years. If we don’t do something, there’ll be enormous calamities in a very short time.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 10:58:17 AM
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April 2008, Media Mogul Ted Turner on Charlie Rose (On not taking drastic action to correct global warming) “Not doing it will be catastrophic. We’ll be eight degrees hotter in ten, not ten but 30 or 40 years and basically none of the crops will grow. Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 10:58:50 AM
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January 1970 Life Magazine “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support …the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half…”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 10:59:29 AM
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“Earth Day” 1970 Kenneth Watt, ecologist: “At the present rate of nitrogen build-up, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 10:59:48 AM
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“Earth Day” 1970 Kenneth Watt, ecologist: “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”



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July 9, 1971, Washington Post: “In the next 50 years fine dust that humans discharge into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel will screen out so much of the sun’s rays that the Earth’s average temperature could fall by six degrees. Sustained emissions over five to ten years, could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:01:04 AM
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June 30, 1989, Associated Press: U.N. OFFICIAL PREDICTS DISASTER, SAYS GREENHOUSE EFFECT COULD WIPE SOME NATIONS OFF MAP–entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ‘eco-refugees,’ threatening political chaos,” said Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program. He added that governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:01:21 AM
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Sept 19, 1989, St. Louis Post-Dispatch: “New York will probably be like Florida 15 years from now.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:01:58 AM
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Michael Oppenheimer, 1990, The Environmental Defense Fund: “By 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots…”(By 1996) The Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers…The Mexican police will round up illegal American migrants surging into Mexico seeking work as field hands.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:03:38 AM
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2005, Andrew Simms, policy director of the New Economics Foundation: “Scholars are predicting that 50 million people worldwide will be displaced by 2010 because of rising sea levels, desertification, dried up aquifers, weather-induced flooding and other serious environmental changes.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:04:20 AM
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June 2008, Ted Alvarez, Backpacker Magazine Blogs: “you could potentially sail, kayak, or even swim to the North Pole by the end of the summer. Climate scientists say that the Arctic ice…is currently on track to melt sometime in 2008.”
[Shortly after this prediction was made, a Russian icebreaker was trapped in the ice of the Northwest Passage for a week.]



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:04:54 AM
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May 31, 2006 Al Gore, CBS Early Show: “…the debate among the scientists is over. There is no more debate. We face a planetary emergency. There is no more scientific debate among serious people who’ve looked at the science…Well, I guess in some quarters, there’s still a debate over whether the moon landing was staged in a movie lot in Arizona, or whether the Earth is flat instead of round.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:05:18 AM
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January 2000 Dr. Michael Oppenheimer of the Environmental Defense Fund commenting (in a NY Times interview) on the mild winters in New York City: “But it does not take a scientist to size up the effects of snowless winters on the children too young to remember the record-setting blizzards of 1996. For them, the pleasures of sledding and snowball fights are as out-of-date as hoop-rolling, and the delight of a snow day off from school is unknown.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:05:56 AM
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June 11, 1986, Dr. James Hansen of the Goddard Space Institute (NASA) in testimony to Congress (according to the Milwaukee Journal): “Hansen predicted global temperatures should be nearly 2 degrees higher in 20 years, ‘which is about the warmest the earth has been in the last 100,000 years.’”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:06:29 AM
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May 15, 1989, Associated Press: “Using computer models, researchers concluded that global warming would raise average annual temperatures nationwide [USA] two degrees by 2010.”



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:08:55 AM
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2001 15.2.4.1.2.4. Ice Storms
Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms

http://www.grida.no/publications/other/ipcc_tar/?src=/climate/ipcc_tar/wg2/569.htm

1995 IPCC Draft
accompanied in the Northern Hemisphere by a shrinking snow cover in winter.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/18/world/scientists-say-earth-s-warming-could-set-off-wide-disruptions.html



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:09:27 AM
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The IPCC forecast in 1995 and 2001, that snow cover would decline.

http://observatory.ph/resources/IPCC/TAR/wg2/569.htm#1524123



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:18:51 AM
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June 11, 1986, Dr. James Hansen of the Goddard Space Institute (NASA) in testimony to Congress (according to the Milwaukee Journal): “Hansen predicted global temperatures should be nearly 2 degrees higher in 20 years, ‘which is about the warmest the earth has been in the last 100,000 years.’”

Evidence: http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1986/to:2006 (Hansen’s endpoints, not mine.)

Summary: Let’s be generous and assume that Hansen (a scientist) was using 2 F and not 2 C (which is what he should have meant, but this is Congress). The direct evidence is for 0.4 C of warming, which is 0.72 F. His prediction was too high by a factor of almost three. But this doesn’t begin to indicate the depth of the problem. http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1986/to:2015 shows that temperatures have actually decreased since 2006, to where if we actually use the February endpoint against 1986, there has only been 0.2 C or 0.4 F rounding up over not a decade, but thirteen years.

Separately, we could consider plots of Holocene temperature reconstructions, general Pliestocene temperature reconstructions, adjust for the usual high frequency vs low frequency problem with the proxies, and conclude that it is probable that temperatures now are lower than they were in the Holocene optimum (since we’re still warming in recovery from the LIA, the coldest single stretch in the Holocene in 9000 years), or we could consider more recent non-hockey-stick evidence that suggests that the Medieval warm period was very likely just about as warm as today. Either way, Hansen’s assertion for highest in 100,000 years — spotting him the entire Wisconsin and Younger Dryas even though that is just silly — is probably false, it might be the warmest in 1000 years. Or it might not. Lots of thumbs on the HADCRUT scales and it is nearly impossible to precisely determine global average surface temperatures with thermometers.

Conclusion: This is sworn testimony to the US Congress? This is the man that headed NASA GISS for decades? Why not just put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind in charge of the National Science Foundation? How in the world could the United States put a man who so obviously lacked anything approximating scientific objectivity in charge of an organization which then unsurprisingly devoted all of its considerable and growing resources into proving him right by any means necessary?



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:21:14 AM
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Some Earth Day Predictions:

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.” Kenneth Watt
“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” George Wald

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.” • Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist
“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.” • New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.” • Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” • Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” • Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” • Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:21:50 AM
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COOLING:

By 1985, air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half…” Life magazine, January 1970.
Get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters–the worst may be yet to come. That’s the long-long-range weather forecast being given out by “climatologists.” the people who study very long-term world weather trends…. Washington Post January 11, 1970
Because of increased dust, cloud cover and water vapor “…the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born,” Newsweek magazine, January 26, 1970.
In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. — Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)
“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind. We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” – Barry Commoner Washington University Earth Day 1970
“(By 1995) somewhere between 75 and 85 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” Sen. Gaylord Nelson, quoting Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, Look magazine, April 1970.
“By the year 2000…the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America and Australia, will be in famine,” Peter Gunter, North Texas State University, The Living Wilderness, Spring 1970.
Convection in the Antarctic Ice Sheet Leading to a Surge of the Ice Sheet and Possibly to a New Ice Age. – Science 1970
“In the next 50 years fine dust that humans discharge into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel will screen out so much of the sun’s rays that the Earth’s average temperature could fall by six degrees. Sustained emissions over five to 10 years, could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.” – Washington Post – July 9, 1971
“By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” Paul Ehrlich 1971
New Ice Age Coming—It’s Already Getting Colder. Some midsummer day, perhaps not too far in the future, a hard, killing frost will sweep down on the wheat fields of Saskatchewan, the Dakotas and the Russian steppes…..Los Angles Times Oct 24, 1971



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:27:43 AM
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50m climate refugees? New Scientist can’t find them either

By Gavin Atkins May 05, 2011 6:54AM UTC

[ I moved my Mom from IL to TX last year ..... she is now a Climate Refugee! ]


New Scientist magazine has done some investigative work on the bogus claim that there would be 50 million refugees by 2010.

One of the revelations is that the map that the UNEP created but now claims does not represent their views, was based on information from a study that they partly funded.

The article goes on to try and identify climate refugees, but fails to mention our findings that the areas identified as most likely to be affected by climate refugees have actually grown. It also includes this astonishing sentence:

For sceptics, however, these few hundred compare badly with Myers’s 50 million.

You mean, for AGW believers, a few hundred is close enough? Then comes this zinger from the author of the original study:

Myers told New Scientist: “It may be very difficult to demonstrate that there are 50 million climate refugees, but it is even harder to demonstrate that there are not.” He sees no reason to change his estimate.

Certainly, it is difficult to demonstrate there are not when nobody makes an effort to monitor the situation, but it’s still remarkably easy to look at a census and make a judgment.

The second revelation is that despite all of the many millions of dollars being spent on climate change, nobody anywhere appears to be trying to keep tabs on climate refugees.

New Scientist requires that you register to gain access to their articles, but in the interests of openness – and because they should have given us at least a nod of attribution – we reproduce the article below:

“There were supposed to be 50 million climate refugees by the end of last year, so where are they? New Scientist investigates

WHATEVER happened to the climate refugees? Six years ago, several UN bodies endorsed the statement that by the end of 2010, there would be 50 million of them around the planet, fleeing rising sea levels, droughts and other climate catastrophes. Was it all a myth, as climate sceptics suggested last week? Or are the refugees out there, but escaping our attention because they never make it onto CNN?
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http://asiancorrespondent.com/53750/50-million-climate-refugees-new-scientist-cant-find-them-either/



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (837986)2/21/2015 11:28:27 AM
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50m climate refugees? New Scientist can’t find them either

By Gavin Atkins May 05, 2011 6:54AM UTC

[ I moved my Mom from IL to TX last year ..... she is now a Climate Refugee! ]


New Scientist magazine has done some investigative work on the bogus claim that there would be 50 million refugees by 2010.

One of the revelations is that the map that the UNEP created but now claims does not represent their views, was based on information from a study that they partly funded.

The article goes on to try and identify climate refugees, but fails to mention our findings that the areas identified as most likely to be affected by climate refugees have actually grown. It also includes this astonishing sentence:

For sceptics, however, these few hundred compare badly with Myers’s 50 million.

You mean, for AGW believers, a few hundred is close enough? Then comes this zinger from the author of the original study:

Myers told New Scientist: “It may be very difficult to demonstrate that there are 50 million climate refugees, but it is even harder to demonstrate that there are not.” He sees no reason to change his estimate.

Certainly, it is difficult to demonstrate there are not when nobody makes an effort to monitor the situation, but it’s still remarkably easy to look at a census and make a judgment.

The second revelation is that despite all of the many millions of dollars being spent on climate change, nobody anywhere appears to be trying to keep tabs on climate refugees.

New Scientist requires that you register to gain access to their articles, but in the interests of openness – and because they should have given us at least a nod of attribution – we reproduce the article below:

“There were supposed to be 50 million climate refugees by the end of last year, so where are they? New Scientist investigates

WHATEVER happened to the climate refugees? Six years ago, several UN bodies endorsed the statement that by the end of 2010, there would be 50 million of them around the planet, fleeing rising sea levels, droughts and other climate catastrophes. Was it all a myth, as climate sceptics suggested last week? Or are the refugees out there, but escaping our attention because they never make it onto CNN?
...........
http://asiancorrespondent.com/53750/50-million-climate-refugees-new-scientist-cant-find-them-either/