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Biotech / Medical : Zonagen (zona) - good buy? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dauntless who wrote (1100)	12/18/1997 10:54:00 AM
From: Mama Bear	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 7041

>>>Perhaps you haven't made any claims - but you seem to accept the most outrageous comments from the shorts & insist that the longs offer proof of sources for everything.<<< I asked you for proof of what you claimed, because your claim was outrageous. You infer that I accept thing that you do not know that I accept. Opinions are different from statements of fact. You made a statement that you purported to be fact, refused to provide substantiation, then had the nerve to opine that people should provide substantiation because they are "nameless and anonymous". I was merely holding you to your own standard. >>>You have to be kidding. The accusations aimed at the management of Zonagen are atrocious. Check it out - the comments from me and the other longs may, at times, be strong - but they are ALWAYS in response to REPEATED, FALSE statements.<<< I've heard this from the longs on every Asensio related thread I've been involved in. If you take some time and visit the SOLV thread, you'll see that your position is nothing new. The statements are only atrocious if false. So far Asensio has given no reason to doubt him. This year every time he's said it was a scam, it was. >>>If the forum were different, these atatements would be libelous. They are issued with the anonymity that only the internet provides - no name, no email, no credentials - just a mouth.<<< You are mistaken here. If there is a true cause of action, then the lawyers can get our names and vital stats from SI. A number of the shorts were harassed by SOLV when that company was still alive. We all had to register, and can't expect to hide from the law here. As far as anonymity is concerned, that's my real name at the top and bottom of all my posts. As far as being anonymous to each other, that's why it's important to post a contact name and phone number when we make claims of fact. It's your job to demand that from the shorts, just as it is my job to hold the longs accountable. >>>Don't claim the drug doen't work & post information that has nothing to do with this formulation, administration, targeted effect. Don't say the management is pulling a scam & offer up the comments of Asholio (sic) as proof.<<< Have I said any of these things? Do you like being lumped in a group, and accused of being a mind numbed robot? As far as Asensio is concerned, he has a track record that provides him with credibility. So far, whenever he has made the claims he has against a company, he has been right. Why would he risk his track record here? Why should I believe you, when I have seen him be right time and time again? As far as offering Asensio as proof, I believe I have stated that at this point he is irrelevant to the future stock price of ZONA. If it's a good company, he has merely created a buying opportunity that will be a blip on the long term chart. If he is right, ZONA will die. it would behoove you to be cautious. he may or may not be an asshole, but he is good at sniffing out the scams. >>>As for paranoia & superiority - my profile is there for you to see & I'm sorry if you feel the need to worry about superiority - honesty & accuracy will ALWAYS seem superior.<<< You may think yourself or your position superior, but you don't seem superior to me at all. You just seem shrill. I don't think you're particularly concerned with the truth, as we saw the results when someone actually called IR to verify your bogus claim that the company had stated that it had begun to buy back stock. As far as the profile is concerned, you can type anything there that you wish, how do I know it's true? >>>I'm just looking for real dialogue.<<< So am I. How about if you start by not twisting the truth any further? Barb