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Biotech / Medical : NNVC Keeping it real board for pro and con discussions -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Puffer1 who wrote (111)	3/6/2015 12:50:00 PM
From: Rawnoc	Respond to of 326

Best Post in Ten Years Nanotoday Member Level Tuesday, 03/03/15 11:18:22 AM Re: Rawnoc post# 108478 Post # of 108697 I was told that one of my old posts was brought up. Funny how after 12+ months nothing significant has changed in this argument. It is futile to try and convince the 2 factions that the other may have valid points. Those who choose to ignore the glaring and obvious signals (that have been flashing for the past 9 years) surely aren't going to start caring about them now. And those who believe that insignificant and often irrelevant or conflicting statements from the company do not equate to actual progress will also likely not change their point of view. This will be my only post for the year, so I'm going to cover a lot. You are all welcome to disregard what I say, but if you reread what I spent too much of my free time in my last years in college trying to do: namely get clarity and accountability on developments and comments made by the company, you'll see I was significantly more right than wrong in my past posts. In '11 I said no tox completed in '12, in '12 I said no tox completed '13, in '13 I said no tox completed in '14 and now in '15 I'm saying no tox completed in '15. All the while the company was claiming it WOULD be completed in these years. My record remains 100% correct for past predictions and will remain so until the end of '15 when I will post again to say tox will not be completed in '16. And Seymour and Diwan know why. It's natural to think "no way, that's ridiculous" but it was also natural to feel "no way, that's ridiculous" when I said no tox in '13 and no tox in '14. '14 saw: no operational facility, no tox completion, no successful scale up, no clinicals begun, no additional results reported for ANY of the cides. As Seymour calls it: "A great year!" The RS was a huge bust. The company is worth SIGNIFICANTLY less today than it was when it did the RS, as are investors' shares. Well, not ALL investors as Dr.B is getting a guaranteed return on his $$$. And Diwan (and his wife) and Seymour are still making out BIG TIME. '15 will be worse. I asked in '13 what people would say if tox were not completed and the facility were not operational in '14 and heard "it would never happen," "silly question," ...but those who were willing to at least contemplate divergent perspectives said they would be greatly concerned. Well? Remember the claim that clinicals would be starting in late '14 or early '15? Recently Diwan said 12-18 months until clinicals. That's '16 at the earliest! Once again, they move the goal posts and mgmt hopes all will accept it. They have to. If the market did accept reality, the obvious truth is too painful. Hopes and fortunes gone. The market just don't realize that they are already gone, at least the fortunes part. The idea that a failed USAMRIID test will have little impact on the stock or company is absurd. On this I agree with you. Remember, we've been hearing for YEARS that the reason this is taking so long to move through the system is that it is an entirely new platform and type of treatment. That's been the excuse for the delays and "large quantity" requirements for Tox, production issues, facility requirements, FDA not sure how to treat this "revolutionary new form of treatment"... and a myriad of other stall tactics. If Ebola fails, it means the entire platform is in question and suspect. Like antibiotics, it's a platform, they are proven to either work or not work. So if Ebolacide II is a bust, why would anyone believe Flucide will work? It's the platform and technology that is being tested. And if it DOES work and the SP Doubles (a huge IF) then maybe I'll jump back in at $5. Which is still below what many here are holding it at. BTW, I am no longer a holder of NNVC. I was never short and held for over 8 years. But when I saw most (over 50%) of the "friends and family" shares being dumped (yes, I'm that close), slowly and methodically, so as not to upset the cart too much, I got out too. Did pretty well. IF this thing ever moves, which i honestly don't think it will, there will be plenty of time to get back in. Even if it get's to $5 again, if they truly have a cure for viruses, then this will be a double or triple digit stock. No need to risk losing everything when there will still be plenty of time for getting in if they ever do anything. Which they won't. See you in Jan of '16, When I will add another year of missed promises and deadlines, another round of dilution and probably at least one new "flavor of the month" that will become the new priority, delaying any and all movement of Flucide. Facility won't be operational yet, and they will still have the same 3 (or is it 6) employees. Remember the mantra: '12 is the year...no, '13 is the year...no, '14 is the Year...no '15 is the year! Anyone else see the pattern? Oh, and Seymour's nephew, is either an impostor or a liar. I call selling over 50% of your shares dumping. Especially when you look at what was done with the money - yes I know (hint: Seymour doesn't give anything away for free). New facility will not produce tox material in '15. Scale up production will not be completed in '15. Tox will not be completed in '15. Go NNVC!

To: Puffer1 who wrote (111)	3/6/2015 12:50:59 PM
From: Rawnoc	Respond to of 326

As opposed to laughable promoter posts like this one from five year ago: BigKahuna Wednesday, 07/28/10 02:59:51 PM Re: inflationista post# 36108 Post # of 108697 what you seem to refuse to understand is Human consumption does not need FDA approval; nnvc only needs IND going effective. Of course that's only for the US market. With approval from Uganda's FDA nnvc can do Human use there, among a dozen African nations that are desperate for an HIV antiviral option. This can be accomplished simply by completing the tox package. Similarly, nnvc working with the help of Dr. Harris could very easily get a clearance for clinical Huanitarian use from any among the dozens of governments under Dengue threat south of the US mainland. In both cases, nnvc is within a year of Human testing.

To: Puffer1 who wrote (111)	3/6/2015 1:19:23 PM
From: Rawnoc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 326

Another long-time long throws in the towel.....any guesses who? siliconinvestor.com Hint: somebody with over 1,000 supportive posts just confessed to me in PM that he's had enough and has been dumping shares. Only 15 possibilities from that list. Why he took me off block and told me, I don't know -- Kind of like asking forgiveness for his sins? lol He believes management is milking shareholders, the stock may go under $1, and he's hoping for a final pump to $3 to get rid of the rest of his shares. Maybe he's simply woken up and stop believing the garbage promoters were feeding him.

To: Puffer1 who wrote (111)	3/6/2015 2:14:32 PM
From: Rawnoc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 326

I don't even know who tnkersdamn is. What I do know is anybody who listened to my info and sold saved themselves thousands and thousands of dollars. Anybody who listened to you bought is now selling pencils on the street corner.

To: Puffer1 who wrote (111)	3/6/2015 2:16:56 PM
From: Rawnoc	Respond to of 326

Let's see how valuable the happy-go-lucky pump posts have been.... Last trade $2.77 Yeah, just money in the bank. Congrats! ROFL!!!!!

To: Puffer1 who wrote (111)	3/6/2015 2:36:50 PM
From: Rawnoc	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 326

Man you would NEVER BELIEVE which long is currently apologizing to me in PM right now and all day long. Wow....one of the chief pumpers no less. And what he knows would blow even your mind. It's amazing how less angry people are with me when they realize they've been had and everything I said has been 100% on the mark. Watch and learn, kid.

To: Puffer1 who wrote (111)	4/20/2015 5:07:58 PM
From: Rawnoc	Respond to of 326

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