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To: HerbVic who wrote (180069)3/12/2015 4:34:15 PM
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Thanks for the article. I didn't know Fry's had them.

It reminds me of when CDs first came out. I took my good old JVC turntable into my buddy Neil a long time audio repair man in Ocean Beach CA. I was talking to him about CDs. He contended that vinyl sounds better. I was skeptical. He convinced me with a Hendrix recording. But he had to upgrade my stylus and add a preamp.

The rumor is that Red Book audio was agreed to be 16bit/44 because the owner of Sony wanted to be able to get Beethoven's 9th on one 650Mb CD. Many people (producers/musicians) at the time were pushing for 24bit.

Most of my real fanatical Audio friends still like vinyl. The have $400+ machines that water/vacuum the vinyl absolutely free of dust and stylus' that are small enough to fit into the very bottom of grooves where the vinyl is still virgin. Think about it. Cheap stylus ride on the upper portion of the groove and push dust particles into the vinyl but the bottom of the groove is undamaged, sometimes even on scratched up records.

I have a very good friend who plays drums well enough to be in ANY band. He's owned record stores before. Went out of business for a time. Now he's back in having never stopped collecting and from all reports doing quite well due to the vinyl renaissance.

I do like digital thought. Carrying around huge amounts of music on a tiny machine in a car is a groove.

Hearing high bit audio depends on the music. Dense music with a lot of overtones (like Hendrix feedback)? Vinyl and high res files sound better.

But MOST classical I'm gonna want digital. Clicks and pops just take too much away. CD quality is OK.

The files they sampled are the wrong ones more like classical. AND not everyone hears the difference, in fact those who do hear it don't hear it all the time, but when they do its usually at a critical time.

The other 192/24 material we tested—Ella Fitzgerald's 1969 record Ella, Freddie Hubbard's jazz classic Hub-Tones, and Marvin Gaye's What's Going On—was chosen because these albums had received supposedly painstaking care in their super-sampled remasters.

Sorry thats all lame shit to collectors. Its not the right stuff.

I was marveling how good the freely downloaded The Slip audio sounded right after I downloaded it. I was wearing headphones. Really dense loud music but I could still hear small detailed sounds among the overall cacophony. Typical Reznor, tons of overtones. I thought: "Reznor is so good at production mixing" he really is, a fanatic, famous for being a workaholic. The Slip is also better than anything he did previously IMHO.

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I'd downloaded it and didn't notice was 24/48 at first. I didn't even know Apple's lossless supported 24/48 at the time (that's the highest it goes.) But that explained it, the sonic experience convinced me. No doubt about it. I will say I cannot hear the difference between a 24/48 and a 24/96 or anything above . Probably some people can hear the difference on extreme high end equipment but the difference is minute. There are also 24/96 version you can download for free. Reznor is cool.

I like that the Pono is rubberized for my car. Might not slip around so much. I think I can set it up so it works better than my Nano which is super clumsy with the worst interface Apple ever produced. It knocks about the car.
The other thing is I want to support open source files. Again I think its prissy of Apple to not support flacs.

Again though I haven't made up my mind. I have to check out all the options first.