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To: Rocky Reid who wrote (40567)	12/18/1997 4:14:00 PM
From: Frank Drumond	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 58324

>Capacity will be roughly the same--however, the Sony drive's performance numbers are substantially better than Zip's.< But Zip2 will beat Sony's numbers and it will beat Sony to market too.

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (40567)	12/18/1997 4:35:00 PM
From: FuzzFace	Respond to of 58324

<Perhaps. But they are a large enough corporation to be able to still sell it at a competitive price and subsidize it using Sony's vast array of other products.> Rocky, I usually don't respond to your posts seriously, but let me break formation here. The strategy of dumping to gain marketshare has been thoroughly discredited since the countries that did it most are now in ruin. That kind of slash and burn policy is what got them into trouble in the first place. Also, after what the SEAs dumpings have done to various tech sectors, I think the US will begin to step up enforcement of existing anti-dumping laws and regs. In summary, asking a company, even Sony, to take a self-destructive course in order to take over a market which it is late to, in today's environment, is asking a lot. I now think it is more likely Sony will cancel the HiFud project, rather than risk a repeat of the fiascos of the past (Beta, Hi-8/8MM, Mini-disk.) They may even ask IOM to license the disks, rather than co-brand them.

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (40567)	12/18/1997 5:48:00 PM
From: Dale Stempson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 58324

Rocky, I disagree with many here who would suggest your posts have little value and that you should go away. At times you bring up relevant issues that are subject to some debate. However... While I happen to oppose almost every conclusion you come to, and often become annoyed when you choose to avoid clear logic, I do enjoy reading the responses to your posts in order to determine if my opinions and reactions would be similar. I believe, as most do, that everyone here has the right to express their opinion. What does truly bother me is when that opinion is presented as fact. In your post you state that Zip drive sales are slowing. This is certainly not true. What's more, this has been explained to you before and backed up with proof from published data. Regards - Dale

To: Rocky Reid who wrote (40567)	12/20/1997 1:45:00 PM
From: Ken Marcus	Respond to of 58324

Rocky says: >>most computers sold now are around $1000, and these boxes only come with 2 slots-- one for CD-Rom, and one for Floppy. You can replace the Floppy slot with Sony HiFi and STILL be able to use all those 1.44 floppies.<< The case size is basically irrelevant to cost of desktops. The cheap minitower I got for around $35 has plenty of slots >>Capacity will be roughly the same--however, the Sony drive's performance numbers are substantially better than Zip's. I can provide them if you need them.<< Zip 200 will be faster than zip 100 due to aereal density alone. Pre-release specs on vapor ware, are next to meeaningless as we saw with the LS120 pre-release specs. They were much better than reality. >>Sony on the other hand can blow the drives out at a loss, all the while subsidizing these losses with a myriad of other succesful products. Don't forget that Japanese firms have a history of doing just this.<< Sony does not have a history of introducing new technology at firesale prices. >>Sony Minidisk is a bad product. It's sound quality is not as good as CD. It uses a lossy compression scheme which diminishes audio dynamics. This reputation has gotten around the marketplace, and justly the product has not sold to expectations. I have personally blasted the Minidisc time and time again. Sony HiFi, however, bests Zip in performance AND compatibility. << The point I was making is marketing, the non-consumer electronics Sony marketing team has not shined in the past. Sony drive does not beat zip in performance or compatability, because it is not out yet. We'll see the true specs when it is out. As I mentioned, backwards compatability is of VERY little value in desktops and externals, especially when the product is NOT cost competitive. That leaves notebooks. I love posts that are easy to respond to. Ken "Super Bull" Marcus ;-) The only think I hate about Iomega is all the taxes it has made me pay.