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To: gronieel2 who wrote (848007)	4/6/2015 1:02:17 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 1575981

LOL!! Is that nonsense your little wet dream, grungyeel?

To: gronieel2 who wrote (848007)	4/6/2015 2:08:43 PM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575981

NYT: Christians ‘Must Be Made’ to Bow NYT comes out for forcing Christians to take homosexuality off the sin list Grony, do you agree that Christians must be MADE to take homosexuality off the sin list? Y or N ..... Today, we have special access to the truth that St. Paul, the authors of the Bible, the Fathers of the Church, and virtually every Christian in history until around 1970 in the West believed to be true. And not only do we know they were wrong, we have the duty to make those who still believe in clear Scriptural teaching and the reliability of authoritative Tradition repent of their heresy. Bruni enlists liberal Evangelical professor David Gushee in his crusade: “Conservative Christian religion is the last bulwark against full acceptance of L.G.B.T. people.” [ Muslims? Orthodox Jews? ] So, having defined the enemy, the one thing standing between them and cultural hegemony, what do they propose to do? This (emphasis mine): Creech and Mitchell Gold, a prominent furniture maker and gay philanthropist, founded an advocacy group, Faith in America, which aims to mitigate the damage done to L.G.B.T. people by what it calls “religion-based bigotry.” Gold told me that church leaders must be made “to take homosexuality off the sin list.” His commandment is worthy — and warranted. Not “must be persuaded,” but “must be made.” Compelled. Forced. And not forced to change our behavior, but forced to change what we believe. Because You Must Approve. And just how do Bruni and his militant Social Justice Warriors plan to force us to repudiate our beliefs? We are going to find out. Indiana and Arkansas showed that most Americans don’t much care about religious liberty — and in fact, people like Bruni and the newspaper he works for have contempt for it, at least when it is practiced by “conservative Christians.” And not just The New York Times, but newspapers like The Forum, in, get this, Fargo, North Dakota, published a front page running the photographs of every member of the state legislature who voted against an LGBT equality bill. Of course I have no problem with a newspaper, or anybody, criticizing, and criticizing strongly, those who vote the way they don’t like. But the imagery and the format here is that of a witch hunt designed to hold Enemies Of The People up to public contempt. Can you imagine the outcry if Ross Douthat, an orthodox Catholic colleague of Bruni’s, writing a piece endorsing as “worthy — and warranted” the idea that pro-LGBT Christians and others “must be made to put homosexuality back on the sin list”? I’m a conservative Christian who believes the traditional teaching, and I would find such a coercive statement appalling. But of course nobody on that side seems to have the slightest doubt about their cause, their motives, or their methods. None. In a holy war, there is no room for doubt. Can you imagine the outcry if the Times published a column saying that Jews or Muslims must be “made” to quit believing a tenet of their religion? If socialists must be “made” to disavow any of their political convictions? But not when the target is conservative Christians who persist in their heresy. Bruni’s words are not a tossed-off phrase that appear in a minor media outlet. The Times edits these columns closely. The Times is representative of elite cultural opinion. These words, appearing on that platform, matter. ......... http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/christians-frank-bruni-lgbt-religious-liberty/