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To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15093)	12/19/1997 8:00:00 AM
From: Dermot Burke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Reggie: Thats what MSFT always does.You have exhausted your argument-don't you think? > It is easier for MSFT to sit back and let IBM or Sun spend the money, then ride on thier coat tails>

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15093)	12/19/1997 1:03:00 PM
From: nommedeguerre	Respond to of 24154

Reggie, "Why should I spend my money and resources to innovate just to supply my competitors with an advantage. It is easier for MSFT to sit back and let IBM or Sun spend the money, then ride on thier coat tails." Sounds like business as usual for the clever ones. Xerox gave us Windows; Unix gave us NT; Borland gave us the IDE; ATT gave us C++; Smalltalk gave us OOP; Apple gave us the Windowing experience to the PC world; Netscape popularized the browser; a real lack of innovation because of competition...yeah, right. Did, you ever think that maybe this will stimulate innovation? Who is going to introduce innovative software right now when MSFT will just reverse-engineer it and include it for free in the next Experience? "That, in my opinion, is anti-capitalistic, and actually smacks of a socialistic bent." Yeah, separate Internet Explorer from Windows and next thing you know Hitler is in the White House. Would anyone go back to the gilded days of ATT long-distance phone bills? Has innovation disappeared in the telecommunications industry because consumers were given "too many choices"? Cheers, Norm

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15093)	12/19/1997 6:01:00 PM
From: Justin Banks	Respond to of 24154

Reg - As long as they make ORCL, IBM, NSCP SUNW and INTC do the EXACT same. ORCL : Their API's are well published. I've got an Oracle Data Dictionary chart in my office. IBM : For which products? NSCP : You think Navigator has got hidden APIs? Surely you jest. SUNW : Shit, Reg, they give source away to Universities! How much more published can you get? INTC : Uhhhh, the x86 instruction set is hidden? Get real, Reg, your slip is showing. -justinb

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15093)	12/19/1997 7:29:00 PM
From: Keith Hankin	Respond to of 24154

It has been repeatably said that MSFT is not in the same boat as ORCL, IBM, NSCP, or SUNW, because they do not have the monopoly power in PC software that MSFT has. And you have failed to show otherwise. This is why many of us on this thread believe that MSFT needs to be held to different standards. However, I don't agree that MSFT should be required to publish every single API call that is in their products, for several reasons that I do not want to get into here, but I think that anyone who has done serious development work can come up with legitimate reasons why - both technological and business reasons.