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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (182115)	6/10/2015 12:35:13 PM
From: tonto	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224757

Forbes came up with different numbers which are much less. I believe the WH is spinning...don't you? Contra White House, Obamacare Exchanges Enroll Roughly 5 Million Uninsured, Not 11.4 Million Avik Roy , Forbes Staff Last night, the White House tweeted that “about 11.4 million Americans are signed up for private health coverage” through Obamacare’s insurance exchanges. President Obama claims that this figure proves that his health law is working. But once you unravel the spin, what the latest numbers show is that the pace of enrollment in Obamacare’s exchanges has slowed down by more than half. If previous trends hold, Obamacare exchanges have enrolled roughly 5 million previously uninsured individuals: a far cry from 11.4 million. Only 84% of ‘signups’ enroll in coverage As you may remember from our coverage of this issue last year, there are two important ways in which President Obama’s claims about Obamacare enrollment diverge from the facts. The first is that “signups” don’t equal enrollment. In order to actually gain health insurance coverage—that is, a health insurer will pay for your health care claims when you go to the doctor—you have to pay the first month’s premiums. Not everyone does. Last year, the Obama administration reported that about 8 million people signed up by “selecting a marketplace plan” on one of the Obamacare exchanges. By the end of the enrollment year, 6.7 million people were actually enrolled in Obamacare-sponsored private insurance plans: a retention rate of 84%. The Case Against Obamacare: An eBook From Forbes Don’t be fooled. The new health law has disrupted coverage for millions, and driven up costs for millions more. That Obamacare lost some people over the course of the year isn’t anything to fret about. That 84% retention rate is fairly similar to that experienced by private insurers in the conventional, employer-sponsored private insurance market. But still, you didn’t hear the White House trumpet the 6.7 million number as loudly as they had the 8 million one. Applying the same retention rate to the new 11.4 million figure leads to an estimate that Year Two of Obamacare will end up with 9.5 million enrollees: an increase of 2.8 million from the previous year. How many enrollees were previously uninsured? The next question is even more important: how many people enrolling in Obamacare were previously insured? If you go by White House press releases and the related coverage from friendly media outlets, you might think that every one of those enrollees was previously uninsured, and had been saved by Obamacare. Not true. We don’t know the actual number of Obamacare exchange enrollees who were previously uninsured, because the Obama administration hasn’t tracked those statistics. But we do know that at least 4.7 million Americans received cancellation notices in 2013, because Obamacare’s regulations made their health plans illegal. Based on survey data from McKinsey, last May I estimated that 2.6 million previously uninsured individuals gained private non-group coverage. A survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 57% of those with exchange-based coverage were previously uninsured, which would amount to 3.8 million in 2014. We also can’t predict whether or not the uninsured fraction will be higher in 2015 than it was in 2014. But if we carry forward the more generous Kaiser estimate of 57%, and combine it with the 84% retention rate, we can estimate that about 5.4 million previously uninsured individuals would be enrolled in Obamacare’s exchanges by the end of the 2015 enrollment period, based on current figures. Needless to say, 5.4 million is not as impressive as 11.4 million. And it means that the White House is being deceptive when it claims that there are 11.4 million sign-ups “thanks to the Affordable Care Act.”

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (182115)	6/11/2015 10:17:26 AM
From: lorne	3 Recommendations Recommended By Honey_Bee John locogringo Respond to of 224757

Comrade..."10 million with health insurance who didn't have it before - saw change they can believe in.".... Any Americans in that bunch? Would Hussein obama be covered now?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (182115)	6/11/2015 12:31:48 PM
From: jlallen	4 Recommendations Recommended By FJB locogringo lorne TideGlider Respond to of 224757

LOL!!! How grubered are you? You still believing the crapola that come from the Obozo WH?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (182115)	6/12/2015 11:49:26 AM
From: TideGlider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224757

More Voters Say Obama Is Less Faithful to Constitution in Politics Email thisShareThis Related Articles Daily Presidential Tracking Poll 44% Think Obama Less Faithful to U.S. Constitution Than Most Other Presidents 56% Think Constitution Should Be Left Alone 49% Favor Strict Legal Interpretation of the Constitution Most Still Oppose Obama’s Immigration Amnesty, Say It’s Illegal Sign up for free daily updates Friday, June 12, 2015 On issues from immigration policy to Obamacare, Obama’s executive actions have sparked criticism that the president acted outside the Constitution by circumventing Congress. But are Obama’s actions any different than those of his predecessors? (To see survey question wording, click here.) (Want a free daily e-mail update ? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook. The survey of 966 Likely Voters was conducted on June 10-11, 2015 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (182115)

6/12/2015 11:18:50 PM

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10 million with health insurance who didn't have it before - saw change they can believe in.

Is there more healthcare? I don't believe it. Tell me what procedures are being performed more often. If you can't tell me that then the amount of healthcare today is the same as the healthcare before Obama.