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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (865002)	6/13/2015 11:20:46 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578593

CO2 is bad for plants, you say? Those indoor weed growers who boost CO2 to 10K ppm must not know what they're doing.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (865002)	6/13/2015 11:25:46 AM
From: Sdgla	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578593

Early Hansen Co-authored Paper Notes “global mean temperature was perhaps 1 deg C warmer than today” Bob Tisdale / 4 hours ago June 13, 2015 Guest Post by Bob Tisdale While doing some research for my upcoming book, I was rummaging through early papers on sea level data at the CU Sea Level Library. I found there the 1982 paper Global Sea Level Trend in the Past Century by Gornitz, Lebedeff and Hansen, all of NASA’s GISS. I enjoyed a brief mention of past global temperature it contained and thought you might enjoy it and another statement, too. While presenting the typical alarmist conjecture about the possible collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet, they made a statement that is atypical of alarmists: A key application of the sea level trend concerns the potential destruction of the marine West Antarctic ice sheet (1). It can be argued that the ice sheet is not close to disintegration, because it survived the Altithermal ( ~ 5000 years ago) when the global mean temperature was perhaps 1 deg C warmer than today. “Altithermal” is another term for the Holocene Climate Optimum. Global surface temperature data produced by GISS indicate global surfaces have warmed since 1982, and, of course, the weasel-word “perhaps” means it may have been warmer or cooler during the Holocene Climate Optimum than the claimed 1 deg C. But I found it amusing that Hansen and others were noting in 1982 that global surface temperatures may have been warmer in the past…without the assistance of human emissions of CO2. After the presented quote, Gornitz, Lebedeff and Hansen then go on to explain how the collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is still possible, but they hedged their bets with a plethora of weasel-words…and the following statement: We should emphasize that we have no evidence for such a process. Not much has changed over the past 30+ years from the alarmist wing of climate science: lots of weasel-words and lots of imaginative speculations, which are not even supported by their climate models…models of a planet that bear no relationship to Earth.