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To: bruwin who wrote (55475)6/16/2015 11:20:56 AM
From: Graham Osborn2 Recommendations

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Huh? You're going to plug in the long-term corporate bond rate without any allowance for future FFR increases? These aren't automatically discounted in; at least part of the discounting will occur as the bonds are issued. Using this logic you could ascribe a practically infinite value to ANY equity at present yields, particularly with blue chip earnings in full swing financed by high levels of corporate debt.



To: bruwin who wrote (55475)6/16/2015 12:41:40 PM
From: E_K_S  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78702
 
Re: PG
Donald Yacktman a value investor has 10.77% of his portfolio invested in PG second to his 11.23% interest in PEP. Here is how he values company's.

Donald Yacktman: Investment philosophy

Yacktman looks at stocks like they are bonds. If a bond [price] declines, its yield goes up. So if a stock declines, its forward rate of return goes up. Along these lines Yacktman equates the forward rate of return with a company's free-cash yield. He calculates this yield by estimating how much cash the company has left after spending what it needs to maintain its business, then adds in the cash he believes it can generate through growth and adjusts for the effect of inflation. That figure is then divided by the stock price.
Using this adjusted cash flow figure, Yacktman compares the stock's forward rate of return with yields on long-term Treasuries. Based on the spread between the two, he rates the stock. Deep discounts are the major factor that make or break a decision for Yacktman.
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I guess this is another thing these successful value investors are looking at especially w/ the FED wanting to normalize rates. How will the forward rate of return w/ a company's free-cash yield compare to the normalized QE rate? It looks like Yacktman is betting that PG's free-cash yield will be much higher.

EKS