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To: bruwin who wrote (55489)6/18/2015 6:32:11 AM
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On: PG, Equity Bond

I think using the equity bond method sort of bastardizes the whole security analysis process.

Essentially the discount rate is not the risk free or anything. It is in fact the long term rate of return you demand for an investment of a specific risk profile, notwithstanding the company's profile, its current valuation and economic/ operating conditions. 3+% personally is already low from a long term US country risk free perspective ..10 year, 20 year or whatever. Also which companies actually last in perpetuity to garner that sort of valuation method? Well technically 50 years would approximately converge the values.

See this to get what Im driving at. (courtesy of ritholtz.com)
ritholtz.com

In addition, on a rough back of envelop and brief appraisal of the business, I would prefer to get it in the 40s range and below.

It is also accurate to note Warren is both implicitly and explicitly selling PG. The swap for Duracell is very telling. Similar he did the same for Graham Holdings, opting to swap for cable assets + Kaplan education. Its taxes + swapping out of expensive stuff are both kickers.

Also the book.
Seriously Mary to me is trying to milk the max out of their relationships with Warren Buffett (WEB). Why do you think one writes all about Buffett despite divorced from WEB's son Peter? Hence the animosity from WEB himself. Mary is voicing what she think is the way WEB does things, which differs from the actual. Would the real slim shady please stand up?
Needless to say, it's not just about targeting one component of a company's performance when deciding on whether or not to invest. In this instance, price. There are, or, IMO, should be, several other factors from within a company's financial statements that should preferably simultaneously combine in order to indicate that its business performance merits consideration for investment in that company.
I believe I alluded to that in a previous post on this board and included a reference as to what Warren Buffett looks for prior to buying its stock.Of course, those criteria are related to his search for companies with Durable Competitive Advantage, which, by their very nature, are few and far between. However, I'd say that if one lowered those "targets" slightly one would still be looking at companies that should prove good investments ...