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To: Road Walker who wrote (11047)6/20/2015 1:09:28 PM
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dave rose

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How sad that you actually believe the propaganda you push here. Truly your pov is a very large piece of all that has gone wrong with our country.



To: Road Walker who wrote (11047)6/20/2015 9:49:20 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13056
 
In the U.S., the leading cause of death from terrorism is not Islamist

Large attacks are presumably relatively rare, but 1 major attack matters a lot more than several smaller attacks. I wouldn't just count the last few years. You have to include 9/11 in the mix, and that pretty much destroys all other terrorism deaths combined (even though I would also include Oklahoma City).

Doing some research I see that even since 9/11 Islamic terrorism has caused the most deaths and most injuries from any terrorism source.

Ignoring crazy people with no clear terrorist motivation, in the US since 2011 I get

43 deaths and 342 injuries from Islamic terrorism

2nd is racism with 17 deaths and 15 injuries

Extremists libertarian, anarchist, and or having an agenda against some specific government organization or agency as the primary motivation all combined results in 9 deaths and 11 injuries

Next is left wing politics (socialist, eco-terrorist, and anti-prolife combined)
3 deaths and 6 injuries

Then conservative politics or religion including anti-abortion terrorism
2 deaths and 7 injuries

I only spent about an hour compiling this so I may have missed one or two but it should be close to accurate.

I did not count
en.wikipedia.org
with 1 dead (the attacker) and 2 injured, apparently by a 9/11 truther. Could be counted as either left-wing or anti-government so I left it out.

I also did not count 2 deaths and 13 injuries from
en.wikipedia.org
it could also be considered anti-government (motivated against the IRS), or left wing, in the attackers note there was

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

–Joe Stack (1956-2010), 02/18/2010

A third terrorist attack I did not include 6 deaths and 13 injuries from
en.wikipedia.org
The perp here was apparently motivated by an incoherent mix of views, some of which where anti-government, some anti-religion views, but mostly a personal hatred of Gabby Giffords (to the extent that was the motivation it might not be considered terrorism at all)

But however you deal with all of those the main source of terrorist deaths in the US (and across the world) post 9/11 is Islamic terrorism.



To: Road Walker who wrote (11047)6/20/2015 9:53:19 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13056
 
And honestly, you think linking "right wing" and "anti-government" is conflating?

Yes and very clearly so.

and racist dogma

Racism is something separate from conservative politics or libertarian and/or anarchist and/or somehow anti-government views, but even if you throw them all together (and there is absolutely no good reason to do so), Islamic terrorism beets them all. By a huge amount including 9/11 but by a large amount even post 9/11.