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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (870969)	7/7/2015 12:46:59 PM
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>> I gave you proof to the contrary, show yours........ I don't know what you're talking about but even the major proponents of it -- "The Hockey Team" -- can't prove it. The fact is there is a very limited quantity of proxy data prior to 1700. And no matter how much you adjust, interpolate, extrapolate, center, and otherwise manipulate it, it is still the same data. The same old people can use the same old datasets and get different results but it doesn't change the underlying fact, which those of us who understand statistics were pointing out a decade ago. You just can't establish what happened centuries ago if you don't have the data. Coming up with new manipulations for old data will not give you new information unless some radically new statistical or scientific technique appears, and it hasn't. What HAS happened is that the GW community has made up statistics to get their papers the appearance of better quality data. For example, when the Mann group couldn't make the Pearson R^2 statistic show a correlation, they created the RE statistic to manipulate the outcome, then by all using it, they could each refer to RE as though it were a legitimate statistical technique. Statisticians don't interpolate data in one dataset so as to qualify other datasets for inclusion. Mann and his group have frequently done just that. Well, I'm not going on about it any further. The statistics are terrible, and unless actual statistical methods on clean data can reproduce the claims this looks like a scam to me.