To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (870979 ) 7/7/2015 1:41:47 PM From: i-node 2 RecommendationsRecommended By Brumar89 gamesmistress
Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578011 >> The statistics are real data..........interpreted by real scientists who choose not just one set but study thousands of sets...... Not thousands. The Mann paper in '98, that gave rise to the "Hockey Stick" misnomer, was based on 116 data series. From those, Principal Component Analysis (PCA) was used to narrow it down to "several", and of those "several" only a few had meaningful levels of correlation. But the important point is this: Mann, et al., made a mistake by using what is referred to as "short centering" for critical datasets. This process was discovered by others examining his FORTRAN source code. The interesting thing is this: When McIntyre & McKitrick applied Mann's technique of short centering to random data ("Red noise") they found that it also produced a hockey stick. And in fact, if any single series of data included in the analysis produced a hockey stick, then it would always generate a hockey stick for the entire analysis. Given the cherrypicking, which was admitted before a congressional subcommittee, with the claim it was "appropriate" ("If you are going to make a cherry pie, you're going to pick cherries") by members of the Hockey Team, Mann could always be assured of a hockey stick and if he didn't get one, he would just change the included datasets to guarantee it. After all, the correlation figures were rigged, yielding R^2 of close to zero for many of the series on which he relied heavily. It is bullshit. That's not to say that someday, convincing proof couldn't turn up. But as it now stands, this amounts to a cabal of people with PhDs who are manipulating data to get a desired result. >> But I am amused at your declaration that Walmart is a great company in the context of big oil, high tech, computers, autos, aircraft, military, etc........ Walmart is nothing but a large friggin general store.......... The world needs general stores, too. Walmart is, by any measure, a "great company". That it isn't in a technology field is neither here nor there. Not all great companies are tech companies. Kind of a stupid proposition, if you ask me.