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To: combjelly who wrote (871732)	7/10/2015 2:03:17 PM
From: locogringo	2 Recommendations Recommended By Honey_Bee PKRBKR Respond to of 1578590

That was their (republican) choice. Their input was repeatedly solicited, they refused to provide any. TOTAL BULLSHIT. Try some facts (for a change). IOW, STOP LYING ALREADY. Democrats ignored the plans offered by Republicans at the time – including the House GOP plan drafted by Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) and The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009 introduced by U.S. Senators Tom Coburn, M.D. (R-OK) and Richard Burr (R-NC) and U.S. Representatives Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Devin Nunes (R-CA). oregoncatalyst.com But the Democrats refused to consider any Republican ideas. Republicans tried to add amendments over and over again. And over and over again the Democrats refused to even discuss them never mind vote on them. Finally the Democrats barred the door, they refused to let Republicans into health insurance hearings. They went into closed door session and crafted Obamacare by themselves refusing any Republican input. lexingtonlibertarian.blogspot.com ....and many more links if you care to look them up.

To: combjelly who wrote (871732)	7/10/2015 2:40:39 PM
From: Wharf Rat	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578590

" Their input was repeatedly solicited, they refused to provide any." Throughout the debate on health insurance reform, Republican concepts and proposals have been included in legislation. In fact, hundreds of Republican amendments were adopted during the committee mark-up process. As a result, both the Senate and the House passed key Republican proposals that are incorporated into the President’s Proposal. Review a few of the Republican initiatives included in legislation passed by Congress: Includes personal responsibility incentives: Allows health insurance premium to vary based on participation in proven employer wellness programs (Sources: H.R. 3468, “Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act” (Castle bill); H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill), "Coverage, Prevention and Reform Act") Advances medical liability reform through grants to States: Provides grants to States to jump-start and evaluate promising medical liability reform ideas to put patient safety first, prevent medical errors, and reduce liability premiums. (Sources: S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act” (Ryan bill); S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act” (Burr-Coburn, Ryan-Nunes bill)) Extends dependent coverage to age 26: Gives young adults new options. (Sources: H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill)) Allows automatic enrollment by employers in health insurance: Allows employee to opt-out. (Sources: House Republican Substitute; H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); “Coverage, Prevention, and Reform Act” ) Mechanisms to improve quality. (Sources: H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act;” S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act;” H.R. 3400, Republican Study Group bill; S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill)) Community Mental Health Centers. The President’s Proposal ensures that individuals have access to comprehensive mental health services in the community setting, but strengthens standards for facilities that seek reimbursement as community mental health centers by ensuring these facilities are providing appropriate care and not taking advantage of Medicare patients or the taxpayers. (Source: H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act”) whitehouse.gov

To: combjelly who wrote (871732)	7/10/2015 3:05:41 PM
From: i-node	3 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 one_less TideGlider Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578590

>> That was their choice. Their input was repeatedly solicited, they refused to provide any. This, of course, is an absurd claim. You're either stupid or a liar. You can choose. But no one in his right mind thinks the Republicans just said, "No, we don't want to have any input. You just go ahead and decide." It was not their choice. Democrats essentially locked themselves in a room, with no meaningful Republican representation, and did what the hell they wanted to. You are full of shit.

To: combjelly who wrote (871732)	7/10/2015 4:19:32 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1578590

Interesting study......previously, it had been believed that its was small businessmen and the less fortunate in Greece who were holding back their taxes. Apparently, that it is incorrect..........it is in fact [Greek] wingers.....well educated, affluent professionals who were fudging on their taxes What Greece's Tsipras needs: A good tax collector The Greek debt standoff between Prime Minister Alex Tsipras and the rest of the eurozone is eclipsing what may be the Greek leader's most vexing political challenge: getting his citizens to declare their real income and pay the taxes they owe on it. As in so much of the world, cash is king in Greece, and as a consequence tax authorities have to count on the honor system. And if a recent academic study is right, it's Greece's most prominent citizens who are stiffing the tax man and helping undermine their own country's economic viability. "For every dollar that is reported, 80 cents is not," said Adair Morse, a professor with the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business. Morse was one of the authors of a breakthrough study released earlier this year. The report -- "Tax Evasion Across Industries: Soft Credit Evidence from Greece" -- documented that tax evasion was most prevalent in the ranks of Greece's highly educated professionals like doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants and even journalists. "Even though, as a Greek, I was aware of the pervasive nature of tax evasion in my country, I was surprised by the estimated magnitude of the phenomenon," said Nikolaos Artavanis, a study co-author and professor at the University of Massachusetts's Isenberg School of Management. "Also, it was striking the fact that top-evading industries were shown to be highly educated professionals with high social status as doctors, lawyers and engineers," Artavanis added. "This was in contrast to the prior perception in Greece that the large tax evaders were low-income self-employed professionals (i.e. plumbers)." The study estimated that in 2009 alone, 28 billion euros of income went untaxed, which would have produced a tax revenue yield equivalent to 32 percent of Greece's deficit. The researchers achieved their breakthrough analysis by getting one of Greece's largest national banks to open its books to them. In reviewing the bank's loan and mortgage applications from 2003 through 2009, they discovered the bank's loan officers were actually including the applicants' off-the-books cash flow for the purpose of extending credit. Extending "an entitlement to informal income provides a property right" that gave borrowers the ability to further leverage their undeclared income, said the study. The practice also ensured that lending officers would advance professionally because their performance was measured on the volume of loans they generated. Put perhaps most vexing for Prime Minister Tsipras was the scholars' findings about how hard it was to get meaningful tax reform through the Greek parliament, noting how such measures had failed to pass. "We find that the industries represented in parliament are those that evade taxes, even when we exclude layers, half of the non-lawyer parliamentarians are in the top four tax-evading industries," the report concluded. In Tsipras's latest proposal to European officials, he calls for the creation of an autonomous revenue agency, a major crackdown on tax evasion, across-the-board tax hikes and the end of popular subsidies for the powerful Greek maritime industry. Tsipras is also calling for increased cooperation between Greece's tax authorities and other European countries like Switzerland and Luxembourg that have been active as so called off-shore sanctuaries for foreign depositors. Specifically, Tsipras wants other "EU member states to provide data on asset ownership and acquisitions by Greek citizens." "Without a good tax collection system, they will not be able to pay off the new debt," said Michael Hadjiloucas, with the New Jersey-based Greek American Chamber of Commerce. cbsnews.com