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To: golfer72 who wrote (538)	7/25/2015 12:38:38 PM
From: bruwin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 850

"Socialism does not work. Eventually you run out of other peoples money." Could have a point there .... Governments don't produce anything of consequence to produce Revenue. In order to pay for Social Pensions, Free Health Care, Child Benefits, etc.., etc.., they need Taxes. And Taxes come from a population that works. And the more of the population working the greater will be the Tax Revenue. And the greater the accumulative skill of the population the greater will be the foreign exchange earned from exported products that will very likely have a greater value to them. I'd say that Germany is a good example in that regard. But if there is little, or no industrial capability in a country, the less likely it will be that they will be able to support an increasing and often ageing population expecting and/or demanding "benefits". I'd say that Greece is a recent good example in that regard.

To: golfer72 who wrote (538)	7/28/2015 6:07:38 PM
From: zeta1961	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 850

golfer--I'm not up for engaging in what would be, in reality, a non-debate with someone who asks this question in way that uses "socialist" as a slur--------and with someone who obviously has his/her mind made up(incorrectly) re: what modern socialism is and which candidate they are voting against.

To: golfer72 who wrote (538)	7/28/2015 7:35:07 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 850

Is India a social democracy. Is China a communist? And both these are economic giants of Asia with India on the rise. So why do you say socialism and communism does not work. Furthermore, why do you think that a capitalist spends his own money. A capitalist owns money that is not his or hers, since it is earned on the backs of the people who build the infrastructure starting with schools and universities to the roads etc. that helps them make their capital.

To: golfer72 who wrote (538)	7/30/2015 9:39:33 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 850

"Why would anyone support Bernie Sanders? He is a Socialist." That's exactly why. He's actually a New Deal Dem, but socialist is ok for a label. "Free-market capitalism" is about as popular as congress, cuz nobody has ever seen it, except on the fiction shelf of the public (socialistic) library when their public school (socialistic) made them go to the library once a month. The idiots on the right have cried "wolf" too many times. After 7 years of hearing about socialist Obama, why would anybody get scared by socialist Bernie? Y'all dumbed down the word so badly it's become something to laugh about. Thank you very kindly. Young People More Likely To Favor Socialism Than Capitalism: Pew The Huffington Post \| By Alexander Eichler Posted: 12/29/2011 5:43 pm EST Updated: 12/30/2011 7:40 pm EST Young people -- the collegiate and post-college crowd, who have served as the most visible face of the Occupy Wall Street movement -- might be getting more comfortable with socialism. That's the surprising result from a Pew Research Center poll that aims to measure American sentiments toward different political labels. The poll, published Wednesday, found that while Americans overall tend to oppose socialism by a strong margin -- 60 percent say they have a negative view of it, versus just 31 percent who say they have a positive view -- socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view. And while those numbers aren't very far apart, it's noteworthy that they were reversed just 20 months ago, when Pew conducted a similar poll. In that survey, published May 2010, 43 percent of people age 18-29 said they had a positive view of socialism, and 49 percent said their opinion was negative. It's not clear why young people have evidently begun to change their thinking on socialism. In the past several years, the poor economy has had any number of effects on young adults -- keeping them at home with their parents, making it difficult for them to get jobs, and likely depressing their earning potential for years to come -- that might have dampened enthusiasm for the free market among this crowd. Indeed, the Pew poll also found that just 46 percent of people age 18-29 have positive views of capitalism, and 47 percent have negative views -- making this the only age group where support for socialism outweighs support for capitalism. Young people have also been among the most involved in the nationwide Occupy movement, whose members have leveled pointed criticism at the capitalist ethos and often called for a more equal distribution of American wealth. In general, income inequality -- which a Congressional Budget Office report recently pointed out is at historic levels -- has received more and more attention in politics and the media since the Occupy movement launched in mid-September. Usage of the term rose dramatically in news coverage following the start of the protests, and politicians from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to President Barack Obama have used the movement's language to describe divisions in the American public. Still, the nationwide Occupy demonstrations notwithstanding, socialism doesn't score very well in other age groups in the Pew poll, or across other demographic categories. Pew broke down its results by age, race, income and political affiliation, as well as support for the Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party movements. There were only two other groups among whom socialism's positives outweighed its negatives -- blacks, who say they favor socialism 55 to 36 percent, and liberal Democrats, who say they favor socialism 59 to 39 percent. These were also the only two groups to show net favor for socialism in the 2010 poll. huffingtonpost.com