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To: i-node who wrote (878637)8/7/2015 9:48:17 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 1570913
 
LOL!!

Why do you joust with that idiot?



To: i-node who wrote (878637)8/8/2015 1:14:22 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1570913
 
> First of all, you are not a social liberal.

Actually, I'm more of a social liberal than you are. But I don't support programs that are demonstrably failed or will fail (SS, Medicare, Obamacare, etc.)


They haven't failed except in the very peculiar way you think.

>> Secondly, Jobs grew up in CA and when to a very liberal college.

We all went to liberal colleges. Almost all colleges are liberal compared with their surroundings. They're fine when you're young and stupid. Most people grow out of it.


There is liberal and there is very liberal. Reed College is very, very liberal. As for your theory on how people should develop politically..........I was conservative in college and became more liberal as I got older and saw the failings of conservatism. And of course, there are others like me. How else could Obama have gotten elected with over 52% of the vote.......the highest in decades.

>> If he was conservative at all, he would still be perceived as a liberal in your neck of the woods.

How would you know anything about "my neck of the woods?" Have you even been here?


Yes, I have.

>> On the contrary, he said he thought Obama was smart.

He believed he was smart but dysfunctional.


Ah here we go..........now you are changing your story. Dave, you are not very honest with yourself nor with the rest of us..........that has been your problem since I've known you.

I call that stupid, maybe that is the wrong term. He grasps concepts but can't make things happen. Jobs essentially recognized then what most of the country has now figured out.

And that's where you are wrong...........he makes things happen.........successfully...........unlike many conservatives......conservatives like GW. And that makes you very unhappy.



To: i-node who wrote (878637)8/8/2015 1:27:19 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1570913
 
And I wouldn't be so proud of getting more conservative as you got older:


Why Are Older People More Conservative?


Decoding the politics of aging.

Post published by Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic Ph.D. on Oct 11, 2014

Older and younger generations have always clashed about values. Typically, these clashes result from younger people being more liberal, and older people more conservative. This is somewhat ironic since older people were also quite liberal when they were young, and younger people will become more conservative when they grow old. So what explains age differences in conservatism, and why do people become more right wing, authoritarian, and rigid as they age?

The first reason is personality. Indeed, a review(link is external) of 92 scientific studies shows that intellectual curiosity tends to decline in old age, and that this decline explains(link is external) age-related increases in conservatism. At any age, people differ in their typical levels of curiosity, and these differences have been attributed to the broader personality trait of Openness to Experience. Higher levels of Openness have been associated not only with aesthetic and cultural interests, but also with a general tendency to seek emotionally stimulating and adrenalizing activities (e.g., from scuba diving to bungee jumping; from drugs to unprotected sex). Furthermore, open people are also more likely to display counter-conformist attitudes, challenge the status quo and disrespect authority. Although these qualities make high Openness a potential threat to society, Openness is also the source of creativity, innovation and entrepreneurship, as well as an intellectual antidote to totalitarianism, injustice and prejudice.

The second is judgment, in particular information-processing capacity. In most people (and I’m sorry to break the news) the speed of information-processing, a core ingredient of judgment and intelligence, peaks around the mid 20’s. To make matters worse, most people become considerably slower after their mid 40’s, with a substantial deceleration after their 60’s. The good news, however, is that slower does not necessarily mean dumber. In fact, older people are better able to rely on knowledge, experience and expertise, so they are not as affected by slower information-processing capacity. However, in order to retrieve knowledge more efficiently it is essential that they economize thinking, and seeing things in more categorical or “black-or-white” terms does make for more frugal and efficient thinking. In line, a review(link is external) of 88 studies in 12 countries shows that older people are generally less tolerant of ambiguity, and have a higher need for closure and structure. This is often manifested by their stronger set of principles and rules, and a tendency to dismiss information that conflicts with their views. In addition, older people are also more likely to make categorical judgments about events, things, or people. This often involves acting in more prejudiced ways – to pre-judge means to judge before really judging – because in older ages preserving old knowledge is more important than acquiring new knowledge.

The third and final reason is familiarity. As we grow older, our experiences become more constrained and predictable. This is partly adaptive; order and structure enable us to navigate the world in autopilot, whereas change requires proactive adaptation, effort, and improvisation. In fact, at any point in life change is disruptive and taxing, but it is especially stressful when we are old. Thus, conservatism increases familiarity, which in turn increases conservatism. In line, research (link is external)has shown that in older age conservatism is positively related to self-esteem. The implication is that remaining open minded when you are old may cause not only counterproductive uncertainty, but also insecurity and self-doubt.

read more................

psychologytoday.com