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To: RMF who wrote (882866)	8/27/2015 12:49:46 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574678

I've heard that 25% of Iranians are 14 or younger. Can you imagine the influence we and the Europeans can exert if we can reach those young people? The influence is already there..........the younger generation is biting at the bit........has been for the past 15 years. Last year, a bunch of young Iranians did a video to Pharrell Williams's Happy: Its laughable how innocent it was..........yet, when the authorities figured out who the people were, they were arrested, publicly humiliated on television, spent several months in jail and their families were fined........I think the families were mostly upper middle class. I have got to believe that most persons under 30 in Iran are desperate for change.

To: RMF who wrote (882866)	8/27/2015 12:59:38 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574678

>> It will open up the Iranian economy and also allow us and the Europeans to enter Iranian society. The Iranian economy was "open" at the time of the revolution. You may recall Ross Perot having to take his plane to Tehran and breaking his employees out of Iranian prisons. Hell, Obama couldn't even get the hostage they're holding today freed as part of the deal. Apple will stand back and ship iPhones over there but I wouldn't do business with them. Not after that. Not without a little bit of I've heard that 25% of Iranians are 14 or younger. Can you imagine the influence we and the Europeans can exert if we can reach those young people? They're not the issue. There are a lot of young Iranians but they don't have any power and they're still not going to after this deal. You saw what happened when they tried to rise up against the leadership. They shot them in the street. And Obama sat on his hands and wouldn't even criticize them. Paralyzed with fear. >> I know it's optimistic, but it's POSSIBLE that we could actually help to make Iran a more moderate country. The thing hindering them becoming more moderate is their own leadership. Getting nukes isn't going to make them more moderate. >>I know the deal has some major flaws but I don't know of a very good alternative. Well, we were clearly better off without this deal. It is a terrible deal. >> You haven't offered ANY real alternative..... I have offered any alternative, that is correct. But you don't just make a deal to make a deal. If it doesn't benefit you you don't do it. Hell, Bush could have made this deal 10 years ago by just giving them whatever they wanted. That is not an intelligent thing to do, however. You don't walk in an say, "We'll give you your money back." You say, "If you comply with what we want, after a period we can see about releasing some of your money." In some ways I think this was the most stupid part of the deal, although I know in reality the entire thing is just totally ignorant.