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To: TigerPaw who wrote (68447)

8/30/2015 2:51:32 AM

From: Greg or e

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Going back to the example of a baby 5 minutes before it is to be born and the same individual 5 minutes and one second later. Their level of awareness and development are exactly the same but you support killing one and not the other, or do you, like Dawkins and Singer, support killing unaware children as well?

"It's not as if I support hunting parties for fetus trophies."

No, you're much too busy ignoring real science and hiding behind fallacious arguments and appeals to emotion that support killing innocent Human Beings behind closed doors, to actually go on a hunt yourself. I take it that your answer is a YES?

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"That line is a classic Karl Rove construct ,I assume you read that line of attack or heard it in a sermon. Basically you find the weak spots in your position and apply it to your opponents. It's most famous incarnation was the "Swift Boating" of John Kerry. Actually, Lee Atwater began that technique, but Rove, his disciple , perfected it."

You sound like Hillary Clinton, shall we que the violins? The only thing you didn't throw in there was some reference to the Koch Bros and the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy". Clinton also likes to think she can deflect her responsibility to answer questions truthfully through a combination of Lying, doubling down on the lies when she is called on it and psychological projection onto those who dare to dissent or disagree.

"I've been more interested in the way you and B conflate "life" and "soul"."

You are the one who keeps trying to turn the discussion away from the well understood biological, and scientific fact that Human life begins at conception, and how you justify killing a baby five minutes before birth, to a discussion of the "soul".

To: TigerPaw who wrote (68447)	8/30/2015 5:36:16 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

I've never heard a sermon on abortion. I don't think the Bible addresses abortion explicitly as opposed to miscarriage and infanticide. Lots of non-religious people are horrified by abortion because they recognize it's an act that kills a baby. Even most women who get abortions recognize it's an act of murder. There's a liberal on SI who has had children aborted and agrees with prolife people that it's murder. He just doesn't care about murder. liberals have an expansive definition of "life" It appears have a narrow and stunted definition of life. and few people believe in a "soul" anymore. Actually most people do believe in a soul.