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To: i-node who wrote (886070)	9/8/2015 3:37:25 PM
From: gronieel2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577917

*...When there is a fraud, it is on both the parts of the retailer and the person cashing out of the card. Both parties are guilty of fraud***.... What difference does it make really? The government is on the hook for the full amount of the food stamps they have issued so who really cares if the money really went for healthy food or a beer and a pack of fags? It's no skin off Uncle Sugar's tush either way. Why waste valuable resources trying to root out EBT fraud when the cost to the government is the same...fraud or no fraud? Once again, it's your hatred of the food stamp program that colors your thinking...not some deep rooted concern over some drunken bum's diet.

To: i-node who wrote (886070)	9/8/2015 7:58:21 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	2 Recommendations Recommended By i-node locogringo Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577917

>> If that card is sold, it is very difficult to get replaced. CJ is an idiot

To: i-node who wrote (886070)	9/8/2015 9:49:11 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1577917

Fine, fine. Yes, there are two parties here committing fraud. Didn't mean to imply there wasn't. But these are not transactions occurring out on the street as you claimed. Your description of the fraud changes. I am beginning to think this is like the widespread in person voter fraud thing. Theoretically possible, but has lots of flaws that make it impractical. In this case, you have a family with few assets, no savings and very low or no income giving up food for cash. At a significant discount, I might add. +And a merchant willing to take the risk. It isn't worth it to just do one or two. And the more the merchant is using for the scam, the more likely he is to be caught. Having a large number of cards dumping their value in a short period of time in a small number of places should raise all kinds of flags. Data mining is just too easy to do these days. There is just no way this is a widespread problem. And your suggestion that they need the cash for drugs is not based in reality. Every once in a while a governor will decide to sweep the druggies out of the welfare system. So they institute mandatory drug screening to get benefits. Inevitably they find out the poor use drugs at a much lower rate than the general population, typically close to 10%, because very few flunk the screening, typically under 1%. Sometimes way under 1%. And without drugs, this whole scheme falls apart.